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Old 02-08-2016, 12:19 PM
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I haven't been in the market for a Z06 but came across one for quite the deal I believe. I am looking at an 08 Z06 - Cyber Grey. Has 58k miles and seems to be taken good care of. I can get it for the 35k. The seller has taken it to the track a few times which has me a little worried because I would never do it, but I know these are some strong motors. On that note, he sent me paperwork showing the valve/head issues being fixed, along with a tune, MSD 2 step install and exhaust gaskets all on the same receipt. Also, there isn't an ad up for the car, so don't even both looking

Additional work/ parts on the car include:
-Air street bully cam
-Wcch Stage 1 heads
-JBA headers and high flow catted xpipe with stock mufflers
-Mild to wild switch
-10% underdrive pulley
-Airaid cold air intake
-MGW short throw
-MSD 2 step

From what I can tell these mods seem pretty standard/common for modded Zs. I don't know much about Z06s yet but I am learning. Do any of these mods raise a red flag? Can you guys tell me more about the 2 step, mild to wild and the pulley. I know the general concepts of them, but maybe shed some light on why these mods are useful, etc.

What are the biggest things to look for when I see the car? I feel like even if it didn't start this would be a good deal.

Thanks guys.

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While this car certainly isn't heavily moded; if its me...I would prefer to spend just a bit more and find a car that's stock or a little closer to stock, with maybe half that mileage.

With respect to the "valve/head issues being fixed"...I would want to know who did the work, and what exactly was done to remedy the issue, if the car was diagnosed as being out of spec. This would be the most important thing to me. Were the heads rebuilt by a reputable shop that has intimate knowledge of the LS7 valvetrain (i.e. lightweight, high revving, compatible materials), or were a bunch of mismatched parts thrown in there by Jim Bob at the local machine shop that repairs lawn mowers in his spare time because the previous owner wanted to save a couple bucks.
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While this car certainly isn't heavily moded; if its me...I would prefer to spend just a bit more and find a car that's stock or a little closer to stock, with maybe half that mileage.

With respect to the "valve/head issues being fixed"...I would want to know who did the work, and what exactly was done to remedy the issue, if the car was diagnosed as being out of spec. This would be the most important thing to me. Were the heads rebuilt by a reputable shop that has intimate knowledge of the LS7 valvetrain (i.e. lightweight, high revving, compatible materials), or were a bunch of mismatched parts thrown in there by Jim Bob at the local machine shop that repairs lawn mowers in his spare time because the previous owner wanted to save a couple bucks.
Thanks for the reply, the work was done by a reputable shop, have the paperwork. If all mods and work was done completely and accurately, would you say 28k is a deal? Considering the rest of the car checks out as described?
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Originally Posted by dereknel015
Thanks for the reply, the work was done by a reputable shop, have the paperwork. If all mods and work was done completely and accurately, would you say 28k is a deal? Considering the rest of the car checks out as described?
If the car doesn't look like a beater, I'd say its a fair deal. That's a lot of car for the money. Just trust your gut instinct...if something about the car doesn't feel right, it probably isn't.
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Thats CHEAP. I would jump on it.

08's with HALF the miles are commanding 38-40k around here.
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An 08 Z06 for $28K??? Are you absolutely positive its a Z06 and not just a base car with a widebody kit? 08's around here, even with 60k miles on them, are still in the $40's. I would say as long as its in good shape, thats a great buy.
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Positive it is a Z. Thanks guys. Will keep you updated if Im able to buy this.
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As long as it's a clean car, which it sounds like, buy it ASAP. If you don't like it, flip it for a quick 10/12K.

2 step would set the RPM for a drag racer
M2W is a switch to open the exhaust valve in the muffler
Pulley helps increase HP, although on the street you may want to go back to stock.

Sounds like the owner is a drag racer. Drive it to feel the clutch, and syncro's in the trans. Awsome find!!
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Thanks for the reply. One last question, he says there isn't a selector for magnetic ride control but rather the car auto adjusts the ride based on the conditions. He says only the 2010s and up have the selector. Who can confirm or deny?

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Originally Posted by dereknel015
Thanks for the reply. One last question, he says there isn't a selector for magnetic ride control but rather the car auto adjusts the ride based on the conditions. He says only the 2010s and up have the selector. Who can confirm or deny?

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bull ****.

There is no mag ride on the Z06 until the z07 came out in 2011.

In 2008 you have one setting "sporty"...


Again, buy this car because it sounds like the owner doesnt know enough, especially pricing. He is giving up 10k doll hairs IMO at the price he is offering it to you at as long as its a clean car and you say the heads are done already.
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yeah, I figured it is BS. NADA has the option for mag ride for an 09 Z. So there is no such thing as mag ride in any corvette older than 2011?

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Originally Posted by dereknel015
yeah, I figured it is BS. NADA has the option for mag ride for an 09 Z. So there is no such thing as mag ride in any corvette older than 2011?

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f55 i.e. mag ride was available with the C5's and all C6's, except the Z06, until 2011 when the Z07 package was introduced. I dont believe it was available in the Z06 at all until the z07 package and then only as part of the overall Z07 package.

Corvette action center has the production break down and shows 0 F55 equipped Z06's until 2011.
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That's a deal but sounds too good to be true. Find out how he came up with his price of $28K. That's too cheap for a good running modded Z. That car stock would collect $37-38K easy. Maybe he is in trouble and $28K is all he owes on it..look into it and get answers.

Put this into perspective. 8 months ago when I was on the market for a Z, I bumped into an 08 2LZ JSB Z w/ 100K miles on it and the seller (Corvette World of Dallas) refused to drop his price from $34.5K and said he'd sell that car in a weeks time at that price. Yours has $8K in mods with significantly less miles albeit not a JSB but Cyber Grey is a more rare color in the Z as well.

I have an 06 1LZ @ 44K w/ a H/C swap on it and I wouldn't part with it for any less than $38-39K or so.

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Cyber grey was not a factory color for 2008 models. $28k is a very low price for an 08 Z06...something doesn't add up with this car. Do more digging on this one.

Does it have a clean title?
Have you run the VIN?
Has it been repainted?
Is it truly a 2008?
Is it truly a Z06?

Edit: to answer some of your questions:

A two-step is used to hold the car at a certain rpm for launches. It is something used by drag racers. You set the desired rpm, activate the 2-step, hold the gas pedal to the floor, the car makes awesome noises, drop the clutch when it's time to launch. At this point, the 2-step deactivates and the car revs/drives like normal.

The mild to wild (m2w) lets you command the exhaust muffler valves open before the computer would.

The 10% underdive pulley is a common mod people do when swapping cams. It replaces the stock harmonic balancer--which has been known to fail--with a unit that drives the accessories 10% slower. This frees up some parasitic power loss from the engine and puts more power to the wheels.

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If this car really checks out (which I doubt we're getting the whole picture) then I'd buy it in a heart beat and sell it for $12K more in a matter of weeks, lol.

Seriously, I'd flip it and go get another Vette for $33-35K and pocket some cash for other stuff.
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Starting to sound sketchy...
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Thanks guys. It is an 09, Sorry I had a typo so the color does match with the year. He brought it to carmax and they offered him 35, and he showed me the offer. I also got ahold of the shop that did the work and they confirmed the work (headers, tune, etc) being done (also saw a pic of the receipt). My thought process..Carmax is not a place to bring a Vette, especially a Z06 or a modded Z06 at that. And they had to of checked it over pretty well too...Seems like a deal if I can get it. Will keep you guys updated.

Vin has been run on Carfax and Autocheck...both check out.

Another question. Will the cam or any of the above mods lower the value or would this be considered a tastefully modded z06? Should the 2-step worry me?

Thanks

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09 Z06 40k+ then. Even at that mileage. Seen a couple local with ~30k miles for 42-43k, now those were 3LZ cars.
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So 3LZ and half the mileage for 43 ish, you still think for this car 40+?. Wow...if this all pans out...

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