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Old 07-27-2016, 11:09 PM
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That fine, and I just switched to a 50/50 mix of M1 0-w40 and 15-w50 a few weeks ago, but if you buy into BITOG's testing, they are both inferior choices (98 and 142 better choices, respectively).

This is why I think it is important to understand how he is testing the oils, and if his methodology is relevant.
Just to be clear. Although I elicited the opinion of that forum it doesn't mean I or those that advised me agree with his methology.


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From all the results I've read, the consensus seems (in general terms) to be that higher zinc oils protect less than those with less zinc.
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Thanks for this thread, changed over to the M1 0w40 yesterday.
Trans and rear end fluids are next.
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I run Castrol Edge 5w30 (with Ti, Gold Bottle) in ALL of my LS engines. I couldn't be happier, and it's ALWAYS made the valvetrain quieter.
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so going with M1 0w-40 is there lower oil pressure at cold oil temps below 160F? What i am asking is with M1 0w-40 does it have to be warmed up before getting on it?
Old 08-20-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbob8915
so going with M1 0w-40 is there lower oil pressure at cold oil temps below 160F? What i am asking is with M1 0w-40 does it have to be warmed up before getting on it?
Any oil should be warmed to 160* before getting on a high performance engine. Oil pressures are higher with M1 0W-40 than for M1 5W-30 until near 0* and below. Cold start pressure usually 5-10 PSI higher with 0W-40.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:17 AM
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I just picked up a C6 Z06. I'm coming from a BMW 135i . The 0w 40 formula you guys are talking about used to be the recommended oil for my previous car. Mobil 1 just recently lost their BMW certification. That was enough to scare me off. That combined with the stellar results of Castol Edge caused me to switch to them. Hopefully I'm making a good decision but I just changed to Edge 5w 30 in my Z.
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I just picked up a C6 Z06. I'm coming from a BMW 135i . The 0w 40 formula you guys are talking about used to be the recommended oil for my previous car. Mobil 1 just recently lost their BMW certification. That was enough to scare me off. That combined with the stellar results of Castol Edge caused me to switch to them. Hopefully I'm making a good decision but I just changed to Edge 5w 30 in my Z.
BAM!!! Guys, seriously, EVERY SINGLE LSx vehicle I've ever owned (1998 Z28, 2000 Trans Am, @001 Camaro SS, 2004 Escalade LQ9, 2008 Escalade L92, 2009 Z06 and 2012 CTSV) have ALL benefited from the gold bottle Castrol Edge.

You will HEAR a difference, and it has a great package in it that actually cleans the engine out if it's starting to get a bit "gunky" shall we say.

Take it for what it's worth. Oil is probably as subjective as musical preferences for us. Castrol Edge w/ Ti works.
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Originally Posted by The
I just picked up a C6 Z06. I'm coming from a BMW 135i . The 0w 40 formula you guys are talking about used to be the recommended oil for my previous car. Mobil 1 just recently lost their BMW certification. That was enough to scare me off. That combined with the stellar results of Castol Edge caused me to switch to them. Hopefully I'm making a good decision but I just changed to Edge 5w 30 in my Z.
So are you saying BMW now recommends Castrol Edge 5w30 ???


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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
BAM!!! Guys, seriously, EVERY SINGLE LSx vehicle I've ever owned (1998 Z28, 2000 Trans Am, @001 Camaro SS, 2004 Escalade LQ9, 2008 Escalade L92, 2009 Z06 and 2012 CTSV) have ALL benefited from the gold bottle Castrol Edge.

You will HEAR a difference, and it has a great package in it that actually cleans the engine out if it's starting to get a bit "gunky" shall we say.

Take it for what it's worth. Oil is probably as subjective as musical preferences for us. Castrol Edge w/ Ti works.
Do you have any Blackstone reports ????


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Do you have any Blackstone reports ????


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Nope
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Originally Posted by The
I just picked up a C6 Z06. I'm coming from a BMW 135i . The 0w 40 formula you guys are talking about used to be the recommended oil for my previous car. Mobil 1 just recently lost their BMW certification. That was enough to scare me off. That combined with the stellar results of Castol Edge caused me to switch to them. Hopefully I'm making a good decision but I just changed to Edge 5w 30 in my Z.
I believe Mercedes still recommends Mobil1 0W40 for their 229.3 and 229.5 requirements.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
So are you saying BMW now recommends Castrol Edge 5w30 ???


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Well the dealer will say to use BMW branded oil, but Edge is LL-01 approved which is the standard BMW uses. Mobil no longer is. Mobil does still have the Porsche, Mercedes, and VW certifications so maybe it's a political thing. To me, I'd think the formula had to change for them to no longer certify as LL-01 though. Not that any of this really matters considering we only need the GM certification, which Mobil 1 still carries.

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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Nope
Without a report you really don't know whats in your oil .........


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Without a report you really don't know whats in your oil .........


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I don't need to. I can pick up the phone and speak to different people and listen to their opinions based on analysis and scientific testing.
UOA's are as useful as drug tests. Change to bushed rockers and tell me if your bronze content doesn't SKYROCKET for a while.

By all means, run Mobil 1. I'm simply saying there's much better out there. Hell, German Castrol blows it out of the water.
I wouldn't put Mobil 1 in my lawnmower if it was free. This isn't the 90's anymore, and it's NOT what it used to be.
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Originally Posted by kenw
I thought the M1 high-mileage had more additives. I have been using 10/40 HM in my H/C 09 Z
I tried M1 5-30, 0-40 and 10-40HM in my 09. None of them quieted my valve train like I was hoping. I went with the 10-40HM for a good daily driving and occasional spirited driving oil mainly since the oil temps hang around 165-175 so I wanted a thicker base oil. Not sure what to use if I were heading to a track day 15-40 or 50?

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Originally Posted by MickVette
I tried M1 5-30, 0-40 and 10-40HM in my 09. None of them quoted my valve train like I was hoping. I went with the 10-40HM for a good daily driving and occasional spirited driving oil mainly since the oil temps hang around 165-175 so I wanted a thicker base oil. Not sure what to use if I were heading to a track day 15-40 or 50?
With oil temps at 165-175*, you want a thinner oil so M1 5W-30 is better for that but it looses it's shear strength at around 265* and I saw 285* oil stock at the track in my 09, so went with M1 0W-40. GM recommends M1 15W-50 for track use, but too heavy for our Z's at 160* street temperatures.

M1 0W-40 and 10W-40 HM have the same levels of phosphorus and zinc at 1000 and 1100 respectively and the 0W-40 would be better for street at 160* range.

See specs here:

https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us...guide-2016.pdf

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Old 08-23-2016, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I don't need to. I can pick up the phone and speak to different people and listen to their opinions based on analysis and scientific testing.
UOA's are as useful as drug tests. Change to bushed rockers and tell me if your bronze content doesn't SKYROCKET for a while.

By all means, run Mobil 1. I'm simply saying there's much better out there. Hell, German Castrol blows it out of the water.
I wouldn't put Mobil 1 in my lawnmower if it was free. This isn't the 90's anymore, and it's NOT what it used to be.
Well I thought Redline 5w30 was supposed to be great based on "listening"
Actual testing in my car PROVED the Mobil 0w40 was better.

There are a FEW() people that disagree with your opinion of UOA testing.

Why don't you do a Blackstone and lets compare ......


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Did I just read UOA tests are useful as drug tests? The logic in here. lol


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