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Old 11-25-2016, 10:38 PM
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Default Been outta the loop, couple questions for you guy.

Hey guys, some of you may remember me when I had my '06 Z that I bought new. I'm on the fast list as one of the few 10 second stock cars.
Well I sold my Z back in '12. I might be getting back in a C6Z again. I'm looking at an '11 Z07 with 20k on it. It's 100% stock. No warranty. I am well aware of the head issues. Just been away from the C6 forum and wanted a little help on what to look for. What's the best thing to do to check the heads? Any other help is much appreciated!
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dont waste your money having them checked, just get them done.

I was quoted 250-350 to wiggle test when I bought my car. When its ~1700 to do the heads including new gaskets, head bolts, shipping, etc... doing the labor yourself, I would rather put the 250-350 bucks towards that and be done with it.

That and that the wiggle test isnt all that conclusive and to have the guides checked with a bore gauge means removing the heads and breaking them down, might as well just remove them, send em in, and not worry about it.
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Originally Posted by C5 Frank
. What's the best thing to do to check the heads?


I'm with the guy above.


20k its time, just pull them and know you have it done right
Old 11-26-2016, 10:09 AM
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I agree with guys above they may be Ok or marginal now but in 10K miles maybe not.
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Originally Posted by C5 Frank
Hey guys, some of you may remember me when I had my '06 Z that I bought new. I'm on the fast list as one of the few 10 second stock cars.
Well I sold my Z back in '12. I might be getting back in a C6Z again. I'm looking at an '11 Z07 with 20k on it. It's 100% stock. No warranty. I am well aware of the head issues. Just been away from the C6 forum and wanted a little help on what to look for. What's the best thing to do to check the heads? Any other help is much appreciated!
Frank, you know more than most these new guys. Do what your gut tells you. I have been doing AutoX lately. Wish I had the Z07 it handles much better with the suspension and stock wheels with Michelin ZP tires.

My new ride is a 2006 since I crashed into wall with my 2008. I have a great warranty (Vehicle1 which is replacing my differential, $5K job) so haven't touched my heads. But they will be done when warranty expires.


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Frank, you know more than most these new guys. Do what your gut tells you. I have been doing AutoX lately. Wish I had the Z07 it handles much better with the suspension and stock wheels with Michelin ZP tires.

My new ride is a 2006 since I crashed into wall with my 2008. I have a great warranty (Vehicle1 which is replacing my differential, $5K job) so haven't touched my heads. But they will be done when warranty expires.


DH
Thanks Howie... My gut says hold off right now. Sorry to hear about losing your 08... Hope you weren't hurt. Congrats on the 06... We all know they are the fastest....
I've been tinkering with a C5 vert for the last year or two. It's a great cruiser. Still playing with my Boss 302 for now. We'll see what comes next

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Originally Posted by double06
I agree with guys above they may be Ok or marginal now but in 10K miles maybe not.
mine had about 14k and was outta spec.
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First off...'11 Z07. Hell yeah!

My 100% street driven '09 at 15K miles had 14/16 guides beyond service limits. Frank, you know you've got to get them done...especially if you plan to drive the car as hard as your '06.

Where are you located? Are you in/near SoCal? Kohle at AHP can quickly and easily do an inspection; and if your heads prove to be worn, the cost of the inspection is credited towards the build.

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Originally Posted by rjacobs
dont waste your money having them checked, just get them done.

I was quoted 250-350 to wiggle test when I bought my car. When its ~1700 to do the heads including new gaskets, head bolts, shipping, etc... doing the labor yourself, I would rather put the 250-350 bucks towards that and be done with it.

That and that the wiggle test isnt all that conclusive and to have the guides checked with a bore gauge means removing the heads and breaking them down, might as well just remove them, send em in, and not worry about it.
Originally Posted by outhouse
I'm with the guy above.


20k its time, just pull them and know you have it done right
Originally Posted by double06
I agree with guys above they may be Ok or marginal now but in 10K miles maybe not.
Originally Posted by ratomicZ06
mine had about 14k and was outta spec.
Thanks guys for your input!
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
First off...'11 Z07. Hell yeah!

My 100% street driven '09 at 15K miles had 14/16 guides beyond service limits. Frank, you know you've got to get them done...especially if you plan to drive the car as hard as your '06.

Where are you located? Are you in/near SoCal? Kohle at AHP can quickly and easily do an inspection; and if your heads prove to be worn, the cost of the inspection is credited towards the build.
I'm in S.FL.... Believe me I know I need to get them done
My issue is I know I'm going to end up porting the heads and doing a cam and headers ect while I'm at it... I know you guys don't know my history before my C6 Z06, but I am a reformed car modder..... I used to through tons of money at my cars. I'm married with young kids now. It's not the best time for me to revisit that... Lol time will tell though
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Originally Posted by C5 Frank
I'm in S.FL.... Believe me I know I need to get them done
My issue is I know I'm going to end up porting the heads and doing a cam and headers ect while I'm at it... I know you guys don't know my history before my C6 Z06, but I am a reformed car modder..... I used to through tons of money at my cars. I'm married with young kids now. It's not the best time for me to revisit that... Lol time will tell though
I seem to recall your username...I came from a C5Z years back. Been there done that on many cars as well; and once you start, it never seems to end. I resisted all (most) temptations on this car because I wanted to keep the stock drivability and (better than OE) reliability. I had AHP fix my heads...their package #4, but I upgraded to the MoldStar90 guides (best material available IMO), PSI 1511 beehives w/Ti retainers, and CHE rocker trunions. Other than that, my car has a Halltech MF103, B&B fusions coupled w/ an x-pipe, and DRM shocks. Stock tune...and I'm planning to keep it that way. If something internal happens to the motor (lifter wipes a lobe, etc.), I may change my plans...but I have no current plans to crack that motor open at all.

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Old 12-03-2016, 01:11 AM
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OP: as mentioned by MTPz06 we can preform the wiggle test on your heads and confidently tell you if they are in or out of spec.
If they are out of spec and you choose to have us rework them we do not charge for the wiggle test. In short we only charge for the wiggle test if the heads pass the test.

Give us a call
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or email HP@americanheritageperformance.com

We work on more C6z06's than almost any other shop in the country.

http://www.americanheritageperformance.com/
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Originally Posted by American Heritage
OP: as mentioned by MTPz06 we can preform the wiggle test on your heads and confidently tell you if they are in or out of spec.
If they are out of spec and you choose to have us rework them we do not charge for the wiggle test. In short we only charge for the wiggle test if the heads pass the test.

Give us a call
310-326-2399
or email HP@americanheritageperformance.com

We work on more C6z06's than almost any other shop in the country.

http://www.americanheritageperformance.com/
Thank you for the info.
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Good to see you back Frank!
Old 12-09-2016, 12:00 AM
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Welcome back, I remeber your good input to the forum.

I was unwilling to have my LS7 without warranty in place so had the heads done and full HCI work before it ran out. At 46K miles 14 of 16 valve guides were beyond service level.

You know not doing the heads until $ for HCI work could be big $ for a new engine. You were probably still on this forum when one of our members had the head work scheduled two weeks after the warranty expired and then didn't make it thru that two weeks.

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