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[Z06] Just bought a C6 Z06. Not worried about Valves

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Old 03-21-2017, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by guido1205us
Also, a guy that brought his 427 to the rally we went on last year is now on his third factory engine. Warranty is great, but unless the valve/cylinders are resolved, a replacement is not going to solve it long term.
427's were only produced in 2013. Last year was 2016 and he was already on his 3rd new LS7. SO this guy blew 3 LS7's due to dropped valves in 3 years???
Old 03-21-2017, 12:16 PM
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Warranty companies deny claims all the time. Valve dropped because of abuse, because you missed a shift, because of an over rev, etc. If you do drop a valve, you may or may not be in for a fight.
Old 03-21-2017, 12:20 PM
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To the OP, the advise on this forum for years was if you buy an LS7 equipped vehicle either do the preventative head swap OR buy an aftermarket warranty... There are double digit #'s of threads here in the archives where aftermarket warranty purchasing was considered in the overall purchase price of the car.. I am not sure why NOW the consensus is the only option is head replacement? If you are certain your warranty covers total engine replacement costs for $0 deductible, not sure why that's a bad way to go for six years of use?

Value of vehicle argument? After 6 years, this car will be anywhere from 10-17 years old depending on what year Z06 you purchased... How much value in return are you expecting on a 17 year old car?? I doubt the engine swap hurts resale in these cases. These were not ultra rare limited number production vehicles.

I'm having the heads done on my Z because I see no down side to this option. I have no problem with guys using an aftermarket warranty either. Just not the way I want to spend my $$. To each his own.

I am curious though to see how your car does during your experiment. I hope you keep it long enough to post your experiences throughout your ownership. It might prove insightful to many readers.
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:27 PM
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extended warranty companies try to stonewall. extended warranty companies go bankrupt often. extended warranties generally are a waste of money, imop. good luck.
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Enjoy your car @OP. Also enjoy all of your other warranty replacements covered by your warranty during the same time. Got any pics?
Old 03-21-2017, 01:11 PM
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Yes,

I'll be posting pics later today when I get home. I drove my other car to work.

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a lot more things can kill it than a valve...
Old 03-21-2017, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOWRYDE
427's were only produced in 2013. Last year was 2016 and he was already on his 3rd new LS7. SO this guy blew 3 LS7's due to dropped valves in 3 years???
No, blew 2 - is on his third engine now. Last post on FB he was looking to sell it.
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Originally Posted by rabrooks
I would drive the car with confidence and enjoy it. But I'd still get the heads done. Use the warranty for everything else like trans, diff, COMPUTERS, SENSORS, Reverse Lock out, etc. Maybe even heads repaired before it grenades. when you find it out of spec, see if the warranty will fix it. No need to allow your car to be completely dismantled and value depleted due to a neglected head issue.
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Agree with most in here about aftermarket warranties...its a bit of "buyer beware". I was fortunate...my GMPP paid for my heads to be redone, aside for some upgrades in materials that I chose to pay for out of pocket. But GMPP today, isn't what a GMPP used to be...now there's the GMEPP, which would probably be about the only one I would consider at this point. Are there good ones out there...maybe, but there are plenty of bad ones (the vast majority).

OP, what the name of the warranty company? Price doesn't seem too outlandish all things considered.
Old 03-21-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by guido1205us
No, blew 2 - is on his third engine now. Last post on FB he was looking to sell it.
2013's also susceptible to rod bearing failures as well...
Old 03-21-2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by golfinz
The price of the head fix is wildly under reported on this forum. When I researched it with shops (ie: not doing it myself), I got quotes from 2.8-4.5k. This included the heads, install, tune, gaskets, fluids, etc. If you did it yourself, you would still be looking at $2k+: $1800 AHP heads, $150 install kit, $100 in oil. Still obviously cheaper than a new motor.
Maybe if you pay someone to do leverything. I did it all myself AHP package 4 and was done for under 1500
Old 03-21-2017, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Frans96ss
Threads like this make me laugh. The factory warranty didn't even cover and engine and you think an aftermarket one will..... when you drop a valve and it destroys your ENTIRE engine you will regret it. The value of your car will be cut in half and u will spend 15k+ replacing the engine.
Indeed, Nothing more dangerous than oil and coolant on the road.

nothing that warranty will do if that happens, sliding in your own oil.
Old 03-21-2017, 03:22 PM
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Smart move as the actually faulty heads sent back to GM were actually less than 1/2 of one percent. This ls7 valve guide failure was an internet built phenomenon that benefited tuners more than owners.

I'd suggest 130k miles for rebuilding the heads to freshen them up.

All early head work was a folly,

Enjoy your awesome new to you ride...
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Originally Posted by JerriVette

I'd suggest ...


Nothing credible
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Originally Posted by outhouse
Nothing credible
I knew he'd show up sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
Smart move as the actually faulty heads sent back to GM were actually less than 1/2 of one percent.
Care to site your source for such a statistic? Its not Mary Barra is it?
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Old 03-21-2017, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
Smart move as the actually faulty heads sent back to GM were actually less than 1/2 of one percent. This ls7 valve guide failure was an internet built phenomenon that benefited tuners more than owners.
Originally Posted by MTPZ06
Care to site your source for such a statistic? Its not Mary Barra is it?
We're all listening Jerri....enlighten us.
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
Care to site your source for such a statistic? Its not Mary Barra is it?
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Originally Posted by redbird555
Maybe if you pay someone to do leverything. I did it all myself AHP package 4 and was done for under 1500
Interesting. The base AHP head is $1,400 plus $495 if you buy the install kit from them, which I assume is complete minus oil. If you did it for less than $1,500, that is great, but it seems like an outlier regarding the price of the fix.


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