View Poll Results: For the C7 or C8, would you prefer a front engine or mid-engine layout?
I prefer a front engine layout
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I prefer a mid-engine layout
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Mid-Engine Poll
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Mid-Engine Poll
Just curious what others prefer. I like the front engine, since it affords some utility. A mid-engine layout would offer little to no utility (trunk). It would seem that a front engine layout would be easier to work on as well. I've never seen a mid-engine layout that appears as accessible a front engine layout.
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I will point out once again that the Corvette is currently a mid-engine design with the cockpit behind the engine.
Almost no engine is as accessible as they once were. Rear mid-engined car can still have similar engine access if properly designed.
Almost no engine is as accessible as they once were. Rear mid-engined car can still have similar engine access if properly designed.
#3
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Mid engine would be the next step for the vette as a world class supercar. And taking that next step might mean leaving your golf clubs at home. I have my truck for utility. I bought the vette to go fast.
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The Chevrolet Corvette has never been, is not, and therefore never should be a mid engined car.
Seriously, what's wrong with you people? A mid engined Corvette? Really? In what reality does that even remotely make sense? What benefit would it provide?
If the Corvette becomes mid engine, it becomes yet another silly sports car that just blends in. There will be nothing unique about it anymore. It will lose everything that makes it Corvette. I see not a single, solitary, minuscule reason that the Corvette should become mid engined. It simply cannot happen.
Seriously, what's wrong with you people? A mid engined Corvette? Really? In what reality does that even remotely make sense? What benefit would it provide?
If the Corvette becomes mid engine, it becomes yet another silly sports car that just blends in. There will be nothing unique about it anymore. It will lose everything that makes it Corvette. I see not a single, solitary, minuscule reason that the Corvette should become mid engined. It simply cannot happen.
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With the Grand Sport coming out, the Z06 and ZR1, as well as the verts, Corvette could break out into a separate brand. Like Porsche, have everything from a $40K roadster to a $150K supercar. Satisfy everyone here!!
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There are benefits to having a mid-engined car with the engine behind the cockpit. On a rear drive car it increases traction. It also improves the breaking distribution when stopping when driving forward. It can improve tossability if the weight is very close to the center of rotation.
It can be a negative it not done properly and it shifts the weight distribution to far aft, as it can cause snap oversteer.
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I think it looks better front engine. I like the long hood with the slight bump in the middle indicating there is power under there. In mid-engine cars, the front tends to look too short to me. It result in better performance characteristics but not enough that I would sacrifice classic corvette looks.
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Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
#13
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You have missed the point.
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
But how many people think as technical as you and I? lol
I was basing my posts on general belief, not technical terms.
The hard thing to figure out is what GM means by a mid engine design. Will they place the engine behind the passenger compartment? I would certainly hope not.
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I set on the fence on this particular one. Although my vote goes to the front engine. I think the C6 or even the C5 has proven that a hybrid design (not in the engine sense) with the transmission moved to the rear for better weight distribution can provide a highly capable vehicle. I believe some Ferraris use this design as well. Sure a true mid-engine design might help with weight distribution and perhaps center of gravity, but it might hurt what the Corvette has been about. My biggest concern with the mid-engine approach are:
1) Additional noise from the engine being right behind your head. The Ford GT has this problem.
2) Potentially reduced rear visibility. The Ford GT also had this problem.
3) No place for storage. As much as people really want a performance car above any other consideration (those are probably in minority). The Corvette is really a partially practical performance car. Who hasn't heard of the Corvette vacation? You need a place to put things, and moving the storage to the front perhaps like a Porsche Boxster would really cause problems for those that want to do more than go to the track and/or take a quick weekend cruise.
4) Price. Corvette as of late (and for many years) has been a vehicle that average professional people can attain new, and almost anyone can obtain used. I remember seeing a statistic stating that 50% (or something close to that) of Corvette buyers buy their Corvette used.
I don't doubt GM could pull a Ford GT out of their hat, but what would the price point be? Does that really provide a halo car for Chevy buyers with vehicles at a much more reasonable price point? Does this scare away the majority of potentially buyers of Corvette because they are looking for a Corvette vacation or weekend cruise with some room in the back for a few things. I'm all for performance. I pick up my new Z06 tomorrow, but I think there needs to be balance in the Corvette in regards to its utility. I also think the price point needs to be attainable, and that is something that is becoming sort of problem when you consider the pricing of the Z06 and ZR1. A fully loaded Grand Sport isn't exactly cheap either. If GM can address my issues, then go for a mid-engine. I really don't think it can be done with some sacrifices for what Corvette is. There has always been a battle within GM all they way to the Duntov era (1960s) wanting the Corvette to move to a pure performance car including with a mid-engine design. Even though times have changed significantly since then, I think they will still have the same problem. That is the audience for the car and price to manufacture.
1) Additional noise from the engine being right behind your head. The Ford GT has this problem.
2) Potentially reduced rear visibility. The Ford GT also had this problem.
3) No place for storage. As much as people really want a performance car above any other consideration (those are probably in minority). The Corvette is really a partially practical performance car. Who hasn't heard of the Corvette vacation? You need a place to put things, and moving the storage to the front perhaps like a Porsche Boxster would really cause problems for those that want to do more than go to the track and/or take a quick weekend cruise.
4) Price. Corvette as of late (and for many years) has been a vehicle that average professional people can attain new, and almost anyone can obtain used. I remember seeing a statistic stating that 50% (or something close to that) of Corvette buyers buy their Corvette used.
I don't doubt GM could pull a Ford GT out of their hat, but what would the price point be? Does that really provide a halo car for Chevy buyers with vehicles at a much more reasonable price point? Does this scare away the majority of potentially buyers of Corvette because they are looking for a Corvette vacation or weekend cruise with some room in the back for a few things. I'm all for performance. I pick up my new Z06 tomorrow, but I think there needs to be balance in the Corvette in regards to its utility. I also think the price point needs to be attainable, and that is something that is becoming sort of problem when you consider the pricing of the Z06 and ZR1. A fully loaded Grand Sport isn't exactly cheap either. If GM can address my issues, then go for a mid-engine. I really don't think it can be done with some sacrifices for what Corvette is. There has always been a battle within GM all they way to the Duntov era (1960s) wanting the Corvette to move to a pure performance car including with a mid-engine design. Even though times have changed significantly since then, I think they will still have the same problem. That is the audience for the car and price to manufacture.
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You have missed the point.
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
#17
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I think it looks better front engine. I like the long hood with the slight bump in the middle indicating there is power under there. In mid-engine cars, the front tends to look too short to me. It result in better performance characteristics but not enough that I would sacrifice classic corvette looks.
#19
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I would stay with the engine in front if it means storage will be sacrificed. If I can't fit two sets of golf clubs then no thanks.
Other than the storage issue, I don't care where the engine is as long as the car is designed to have the performance and handling I am accustomed to in my Vettes and the car is beautiful as a sports car should be.
Scott
Other than the storage issue, I don't care where the engine is as long as the car is designed to have the performance and handling I am accustomed to in my Vettes and the car is beautiful as a sports car should be.
Scott
#20
Le Mans Master
You have missed the point.
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".
Every PRODUCTION Corvette 1984 model year on has been a mid engined car. The engine is inside the wheelbase, by definition a mid engine configuration. The passenger compartment is behind the engine. It is a common inaccuracy to believe that the engine must be behind the passenger compartment for a car to be "mid-engined".