Does this mean the C7 may come sooner and be worthy??
#1
Melting Slicks
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Does this mean the C7 may come sooner and be worthy??
#2
I doubt this changes anything regarding the C7. GM hasn't dug themselves out of the hole yet, far from it. Read the rest of the article...
"GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year."
I still think the C7 will simply be a re-bodied and warmed-over C6. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, all things considered. If true, however, then it really shouldn't be labeled as a whole new generation but rather a continuation of the 6th gen, IMO.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
"GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year."
I still think the C7 will simply be a re-bodied and warmed-over C6. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, all things considered. If true, however, then it really shouldn't be labeled as a whole new generation but rather a continuation of the 6th gen, IMO.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
#3
Melting Slicks
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I doubt this changes anything regarding the C7. GM hasn't dug themselves out of the hole yet, far from it. Read the rest of the article...
"GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year."
I still think the C7 will simply be a re-bodied and warmed-over C6. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, all things considered. If true, however, then it really shouldn't be labeled as a whole new generation but rather a continuation of the 6th gen, IMO.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
"GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year."
I still think the C7 will simply be a re-bodied and warmed-over C6. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, all things considered. If true, however, then it really shouldn't be labeled as a whole new generation but rather a continuation of the 6th gen, IMO.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
#4
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I still think the C7 will simply be a re-bodied and warmed-over C6. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, all things considered. If true, however, then it really shouldn't be labeled as a whole new generation but rather a continuation of the 6th gen, IMO.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
I'm not sure if you consider a C6.5 "worthy", but I believe that's what we're going to get. And I wouldn't expect it earlier than the 2013 model year.
#5
At best. I don't see them worrying about C7 when the C6 sales (and sales in general) are still in the toilet. Sales will not turn until jobs come back and Obama is telling us that 10% unemployment is the new norm. He's now looking at a VAT which could be 20% adding $10k to the price of a vette. That will fire up sales for sure. Thanks Obama!!
And for the record, Obama is not considering a VAT, nor was he ever. There is a bipartisan fiscal commission in place that is looking for ways to decrease the deficit and a VAT came up in their discussion...Obama never mentioned this. This means that both Republicans and Democrats are reviewing the issue.
Obama has never stated he was even considering this and neither group is fond of it. But of course, there are groups of people that are running with the idea and blowing it out of proportion.
Don't believe everything you hear on Fox.
#6
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Exactly when the C7 will be here is unknown, but I'm sure it will be much better than the current C6, even if it's just a stop gap for now.
And for the record, Obama is not considering a VAT, nor was he ever. There is a bipartisan fiscal commission in place that is looking for ways to decrease the deficit and a VAT came up in their discussion...Obama never mentioned this. This means that both Republicans and Democrats are reviewing the issue.
Obama has never stated he was even considering this and neither group is fond of it. But of course, there are groups of people that are running with the idea and blowing it out of proportion.
Don't believe everything you hear on Fox.
And for the record, Obama is not considering a VAT, nor was he ever. There is a bipartisan fiscal commission in place that is looking for ways to decrease the deficit and a VAT came up in their discussion...Obama never mentioned this. This means that both Republicans and Democrats are reviewing the issue.
Obama has never stated he was even considering this and neither group is fond of it. But of course, there are groups of people that are running with the idea and blowing it out of proportion.
Don't believe everything you hear on Fox.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100421/...e/us_obama_tax
He will support it after he's finished taking over the private sector. Remember I said that. He's going to tax us until our eyes bleed. But hey, I have an idea, how about we cut the size of government by 50%. I'm over taxed now, don't need no VAT but it's coming. The Democrats (I guess you're one) can't help themselves.
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Because our vettes are made by a company that was taken over by Obama and there was an article that said he will be targeting high perf cars. What color would like your new battery powered "green" vette in.
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#12
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I will tell you this. I want the free market to decide. Not our pompous arrogant president or some government bureaucrat. Govn't screws up everything it touches. CAFE standards are bad enough.
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Still, this is the C7 section not PR&C. I, hopefully along with others, have a genuine interest in the C7. IDGAF about politics. Why not save the political banter for the proper forum? This political BS is in all of the forums, C5, C6, C7, OT, etc. Isn't there someplace we can go and just talk about Corvettes without "Obama" or "Government Motors" topics showing up?
#14
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stock vette should be a very good race for the tesla
electric motors have "instant torq" and yes from a dig the tesla will move out
try him again over 120
electric motors have "instant torq" and yes from a dig the tesla will move out
try him again over 120
#15
Drifting
And yeah dunno what happened a Tesela very well will keep up with you to about 70, after that you shoulda ran away from him.
#16
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Because trying not to destroy the air for no reason is a bad idea, i mean the cats nowadays rob you of what, like 600hp? Because the big three were progressing so fast with technology before they got this kick in the butt and realized pressure is finally on? Because a 440's six pack carb that dumps 30% unburned fuel straight into the air below 3,000 rpms is a good thing? its called Paaaaaaaagwession!!!
And yeah dunno what happened a Tesela very well will keep up with you to about 70, after that you shoulda ran away from him.
And yeah dunno what happened a Tesela very well will keep up with you to about 70, after that you shoulda ran away from him.
Name one thing the government does well besides the military. I want them to leave me alone. The govn't should be involved in protecting us but it's expanded out of control. It's called tyranny.
#17
Because it drives up the price of the cars and satisfies the environmentalist wackos. That's all it does. Obama is telling everyone from wall street to the insurance companies how to run their businesses and he's never even run a lemonade stand.
Name one thing the government does well besides the military. I want them to leave me alone. The govn't should be involved in protecting us but it's expanded out of control. It's called tyranny.
Name one thing the government does well besides the military. I want them to leave me alone. The govn't should be involved in protecting us but it's expanded out of control. It's called tyranny.
Just because this country has done things the same way for so many years does not mean it was right.
Let's get real. Fossil fuel energy is not the future. Sure, it's renewable, but when it takes millions of years for it to turn into oil, you or your children or your children's children won't even be around to pump it into their cars. We are using it much quicker than we are producing it.
Obama isn't trying to take over the private sector, he is trying to regulate it, which hasn't been done for the past 30 years. If you really think the private sector has any responsibility, you're kidding yourself. That in itself is a whole other discussion.
Maybe Obama has never run a lemonade stand, but you have never run a country, especially one that is in the worst economic state probably in your lifetime. Any what has Bush done that is so worthy or running a country? His background was a joke, ridding on shoulders of Bush Sr.
Back to the point...You always bring up politics when it's not needed. Stay on topic. Until it happens, then complain or write your Congressman before hand. Why pump the air with negative information, when you really don't have anything to support it. I'm not trying to be a douche, but if you want to debate politics, bring some facts to the table, not a bunch of hoopla. I'm an American too and I want the best for my family as well, but if you really want the best, look at both sides, not just whatever is cool to bitch about.
Enjoy your Corvette. Corvettes ain't going anywhere.
#18
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I'm not saying there is a perfect way to fix this economical mess either, but Obama has been in office for less than a year and you are criticizing him despite the mess that Bush put this country in over an 8 year period? Come on man! I don't want to come out of pocket for any more than you, but things need to change.
Just because this country has done things the same way for so many years does not mean it was right.
Let's get real. Fossil fuel energy is not the future. Sure, it's renewable, but when it takes millions of years for it to turn into oil, you or your children or your children's children won't even be around to pump it into their cars. We are using it much quicker than we are producing it.
Obama isn't trying to take over the private sector, he is trying to regulate it, which hasn't been done for the past 30 years. If you really think the private sector has any responsibility, you're kidding yourself. That in itself is a whole other discussion.
Maybe Obama has never run a lemonade stand, but you have never run a country, especially one that is in the worst economic state probably in your lifetime. Any what has Bush done that is so worthy or running a country? His background was a joke, ridding on shoulders of Bush Sr.
Enjoy your Corvette. Corvettes ain't going anywhere.
Just because this country has done things the same way for so many years does not mean it was right.
Let's get real. Fossil fuel energy is not the future. Sure, it's renewable, but when it takes millions of years for it to turn into oil, you or your children or your children's children won't even be around to pump it into their cars. We are using it much quicker than we are producing it.
Obama isn't trying to take over the private sector, he is trying to regulate it, which hasn't been done for the past 30 years. If you really think the private sector has any responsibility, you're kidding yourself. That in itself is a whole other discussion.
Maybe Obama has never run a lemonade stand, but you have never run a country, especially one that is in the worst economic state probably in your lifetime. Any what has Bush done that is so worthy or running a country? His background was a joke, ridding on shoulders of Bush Sr.
Enjoy your Corvette. Corvettes ain't going anywhere.
Let the free market decide what fuel we use. You don't sound like a radical. Obama is left of liberal, he's a radical and he does want to take over the private sector. You've drank the kool aid so I guess you can't see it.
On the one hand Obama has a deficit commission and on the other hand he and congress continue to spend. Why is he doing all this spending? What's it getting us?
I haven't run a country but I have a brain.
You don't think vettes are going anywhere? Obama doesn't like your vette and he doesn't care what you want. Read this:
http://pb.nbm.com/newsletter/nhtsa-d...mance-vehicles
#19
LOL Bush kept us safe
Uh...only the biggest Terrorist attack in the history of this country happened while he was in office. And the month before, George took his first vacation, one flipping month off to clear brush in Texas. Must be nice needing a 4 week vacation after only being on the job for 7+ months. And on that vacation clearing brush, the CIA was telling him that middle eastern suicide bombers were looking at using airliners as weapons.
Thanks Bush, you did a great job protecting us there.
I am no fan of either party, they are both the same, and controlled by the big corporations. We don't live in a democracy, but a Corporatacracy. And Obama is not left of Liberal, he is more of a centrist, I know alot of Progressives and Liberals who are upset with Obama being too middle of the road.
Bottom line, without Bush and Obama giving GM loans, the Corvette would have died in 2008. Soon GM will pay off the US Govt loans, and be back in control 100%.
#20
Safety Car
LOL Bush kept us safe
Uh...only the biggest Terrorist attack in the history of this country happened while he was in office. And the month before, George took his first vacation, one flipping month off to clear brush in Texas. Must be nice needing a 4 week vacation after only being on the job for 7+ months. And on that vacation clearing brush, the CIA was telling him that middle eastern suicide bombers were looking at using airliners as weapons.
Uh...only the biggest Terrorist attack in the history of this country happened while he was in office. And the month before, George took his first vacation, one flipping month off to clear brush in Texas. Must be nice needing a 4 week vacation after only being on the job for 7+ months. And on that vacation clearing brush, the CIA was telling him that middle eastern suicide bombers were looking at using airliners as weapons.
You must be the only person in the country that thinks Obama is a centrist.
Last edited by goatts; 04-25-2010 at 07:35 PM.