C7 News Fom Bowling Green
06-14-2012, 02:10 PM
#21
Melting Slicks
It's just that adding that AWD assembly section to the plant is darn expensive!
OR, it could just be that there were a lot of older parts of the plant that needed replacing. Robots are pricey, maybe there is a new paint area, could also be improved HVAC. Who knows? There is nothing to base anything on so speculation is meaningless at this point beyond that they are updating an old plant.
OR, it could just be that there were a lot of older parts of the plant that needed replacing. Robots are pricey, maybe there is a new paint area, could also be improved HVAC. Who knows? There is nothing to base anything on so speculation is meaningless at this point beyond that they are updating an old plant.
06-14-2012, 02:27 PM
#22
Le Mans Master
OR, it could just be that there were a lot of older parts of the plant that needed replacing. Robots are pricey, maybe there is a new paint area, could also be improved HVAC. Who knows? There is nothing to base anything on so speculation is meaningless at this point beyond that they are updating an old plant.
allegedly, according to some, Ford bet the ranch/company on the original '86 Taurus. it may have been 1 billion or more to create it from the old 500s and Galaxies, neither of which I recall being front wheel drive.
I agree that 131 million seems to be small by comparison to other models and generation changes. if that number's correct, I hope it's a lot of car!
I agree that 131 million seems to be small by comparison to other models and generation changes. if that number's correct, I hope it's a lot of car!
I would be stunned. I'd also be thinking of taking a second job for all the front tires I'd need to buy
06-14-2012, 07:55 PM
#24
Safety Car
In 1992, GM approved 250 million to design the C5 and tool up. What's that equal to now in 2012 dollars....409 Million????. Anyway, 131 million isn't that much, about a third of what they spent bringing the C5 to market. Ford spent over 1 billion when they did the second generation Taurus back in the early 90's
06-14-2012, 09:45 PM
#25
Race Director
This video (posted in this thread) says they're building a new pre-treatment building (chassis coating?) as well as a new body shop. Continue speculation....
That expenditure goes hand in glove with the discussion of other efficiency measures and the revised fluorescent lighting. The plant is upgrading its facilities, not just preparing for the C7.
It seems that the expenditures may not be so much directed towards a new car but rather towards the facility itself, regulatory compliance, and energy efficiency.
Time will tell..............
06-14-2012, 10:08 PM
#27
Melting Slicks
I am so ready for the reveal. My personal feeling is 3000lb weight stripped with 535hp stock no z06 version only a zr1 in a few years since the z06 doesnt move many units now. Base price will come in at 52-55k but well equipped close to 65-70k. Hoping for high end seat options as well as electronics.
06-14-2012, 10:53 PM
#30
Melting Slicks
06-14-2012, 11:27 PM
#32
Fortunately you had your Isuzu!
Bucky, Christmas has never been a big deal to me.
As a big fan of Corvette, I just really want to see the marque selling far better than it is.
Bucky, Christmas has never been a big deal to me.
As a big fan of Corvette, I just really want to see the marque selling far better than it is.
06-15-2012, 01:30 AM
#34
Le Mans Master
I am so ready for the reveal. My personal feeling is 3000lb weight stripped with 535hp stock no z06 version only a zr1 in a few years since the z06 doesnt move many units now. Base price will come in at 52-55k but well equipped close to 65-70k. Hoping for high end seat options as well as electronics.
06-15-2012, 01:35 AM
#35
That, along with this comment from the ops posted article quoting the Corvette Plant Manager leaves me very optimistic the C7 won't disappoint.
"I will say that the last year for the C6 model is 2013,” Plant Manager Dave Tatman said.
“The new vehicle is incredibly exciting,” he said. “But that’s all I can say about it.”
"I will say that the last year for the C6 model is 2013,” Plant Manager Dave Tatman said.
“The new vehicle is incredibly exciting,” he said. “But that’s all I can say about it.”
06-15-2012, 01:35 AM
#36
Team Owner
but I would bet on a higher likelihood of 3100 pounds with 475hp, but also improved gearing (for both acceleration AND fuel economy) with some 7 and 8 speed transmissions. And I too believe that we might not see a C7 Z06 model.
06-15-2012, 03:37 AM
#37
Melting Slicks
Improved gearing? Bah. Thats something i want to do on my own. Give me power!
As for the z06 i just mean there wont be 3 performance divisions just a top and bottom. Call them whatever you want.
As for the z06 i just mean there wont be 3 performance divisions just a top and bottom. Call them whatever you want.
06-15-2012, 05:46 AM
#38
Team Owner
My belief is that there will be a base coupe and convertible, a more upmarket (ie: Grand Sport level) coupe/convertible and then eventually the ZR1.
06-15-2012, 01:05 PM
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The C5 had an interior made by Tupperware, had no advertising support and it outsold the C6 3 to 1. I can't attribute that to hidden headlights and a butt big enough for a Kardashian.
The only thing I can figure is the Corvette has finally reached the point where the price is beyond the market. I'd be interested to see where the price point is relative to the average car price for a 2012 and then same thing for a 2002.
I saw a stat that the average American has lost 30% of their net worth since 2008. That makes selling a luxury sports car - essentially the most expensive toy most will ever buy - a very tough proposition.
I also wonder how much of the lower tier Corvette sales are winding up in the 85,000 Camaros GM sold last year.
06-15-2012, 01:25 PM
#40
Race Director
As do I. And frankly I'm not exactly certain why it isn't. The car is a helluva a value, it goes like stink. The slam on the interior quality is way over blown.
The C5 had an interior made by Tupperware, had no advertising support and it outsold the C6 3 to 1. I can't attribute that to hidden headlights and a butt big enough for a Kardashian.
I think ya have to look at the state of the economy during those respective time frames....
The only thing I can figure is the Corvette has finally reached the point where the price is beyond the market. I'd be interested to see where the price point is relative to the average car price for a 2012 and then same thing for a 2002.
I saw a stat that the average American has lost 30% of their net worth since 2008. That makes selling a luxury sports car - essentially the most expensive toy most will ever buy - a very tough proposition.
Exactly!
I also wonder how much of the lower tier Corvette sales are winding up in the 85,000 Camaros GM sold last year.
Good question!
The C5 had an interior made by Tupperware, had no advertising support and it outsold the C6 3 to 1. I can't attribute that to hidden headlights and a butt big enough for a Kardashian.
I think ya have to look at the state of the economy during those respective time frames....
The only thing I can figure is the Corvette has finally reached the point where the price is beyond the market. I'd be interested to see where the price point is relative to the average car price for a 2012 and then same thing for a 2002.
I saw a stat that the average American has lost 30% of their net worth since 2008. That makes selling a luxury sports car - essentially the most expensive toy most will ever buy - a very tough proposition.
Exactly!
I also wonder how much of the lower tier Corvette sales are winding up in the 85,000 Camaros GM sold last year.
Good question!
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