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Old 09-02-2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
Yes indeed - the color matches, the system is prophylacticly sound and the whole could be probably be turned into a 2+2+2. Dare you say you cannot take your four kids with you in a 911.

I am sold!......................
I could see adding some HVAC and windows in the Thule and sticking some of the kids up there .
Old 09-02-2012, 11:51 PM
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These are large cases, and there's still room under the cases on the seats, and room to place more baggage on top of the black cases. There's room behind the cases too.

C'Mon Notch - "large cases" compared to what? the miniature ones you showed at the first try? Yes they are larger..

Care to show me two regular cases horizontally aligned like depicted? or do I have to break out the meter?..
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Color matching and customizing on a Porsche Cayman...



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Looks like it's ready for missile launch!
Old 09-03-2012, 09:41 PM
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Color matching and customizing on a Porsche Cayman...



Wow. If I saw that going down the road I would lol. Almost as bad as the luggage rack on early C3 Corvettes
Old 09-10-2012, 05:12 PM
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Figured this would go here:

I haven't read through this whole thing but was looking for a place to bring this up. On a performance front, especially for the upper Corvette models, I think huge competition is the SRT Viper. 640 HP, 600 lb*ft, it's a monster.

The news, however, is the pricing that was just released from your favorite news source:

http://jalopnik.com/5942027/the-2013...tarts-at-97395

At just under 100k, that looks like a great price for that car. I don't care what you say, at under 100k for the regular SRT, the performance trim C7 will need some major push for under 100k to match that thing.
Old 09-10-2012, 05:24 PM
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i would think its mainly the carrera. they both have 7 spd sticks!
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2014 C7

1. 2013 Cayman (redesign)

2. 2013 BMW 335i coupe (redesign)

3. nothing

Current ride 08 BMW 335i coupe/sports/6mt.

I am the $55,000 or so guy. Looking to sneak in to the best car listed, with no luxury options, just performance options.
Old 09-10-2012, 08:23 PM
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2013 GT500
08 Viper
GTR
Old 09-10-2012, 09:25 PM
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Z4 BMW or 3 series (even M)...no way....I would never cross shop those.

M6.... yes

Benz C63 AMG, E550 Cabrio....yes

Caymen maybe....Boxster no way.

Just maybe its closest competitor is the Mustang.
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The traditional Corvette benchmarks have been:

911

Viper

Nissan Z
Old 09-10-2012, 10:26 PM
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by onedaydreamcar
Figured this would go here:

I haven't read through this whole thing but was looking for a place to bring this up. On a performance front, especially for the upper Corvette models, I think huge competition is the SRT Viper. 640 HP, 600 lb*ft, it's a monster.

The news, however, is the pricing that was just released from your favorite news source:

http://jalopnik.com/5942027/the-2013...tarts-at-97395

At just under 100k, that looks like a great price for that car. I don't care what you say, at under 100k for the regular SRT, the performance trim C7 will need some major push for under 100k to match that thing.
At 100K for a striking, yet not so (historically) qualitative platform, I really thing the folks at FIAT-Chrysler are really taking a big calculated bet with this car. Someone in there said let's pretty this thing up and let's go for it! Which I suppose they can do given the targeted sale volumes.
Counter intuitive but I think this is a bet made in a position of weakness; not strength (see Nissan GTR).

I think Corvette is going down the same road but not at this increment and certainly with different sales volumes in mind.


Would be interesting for another thread:

"Would you buy a 100k Corvette?"
Old 09-10-2012, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
Twist my arm and make me pick the top 3 non-GM models that C7 conquers or gets conquered by in individual head-to-head buyer decisions? Leaving out ZR1, I say:

1. M3
2. Cayman/Boxster
3. 911

because they are the standards. Every other sports coupe/sedan is chasing and trying to differentiate itself from the M3. Every other small two-seater of substance is chasing and trying to differentiate itself from the Cayman/Boxster. And everything under $100K is measured against the 911.

Corvette already wins the price/performance checkbox battle against these three. What it lacks, and what C7 must strive to earn, is the reputation for uncompromising excellence that these three models exude.

.Jinx
What does phrase this mean? Uncompromising what? Are we talking quality here? The BMW is lower in quality (failures) than GM products. The BMW seats aren't any better than Corvette seats (I have sat in the right side seat in a large number of BMWs on the track and know I have better support in the Vette seats under hard cornering). Haven't ridden in as many P cars but from the few I have the seats didn't impress me. Why does everybody put race seats in all of these cars? Because none of the factory seats meet the demands of pulling high Gs lots of times.

Most of the BMW and P Car excellence is myth.

Bill
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Is this where the dog rides???
Old 09-11-2012, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Most of the BMW and P Car excellence is myth.
It's myth that sells cars. They have a rep for delivering a great sports car experience. Corvette has a rep for delivering numbers and exposing an Achilles heel. Uncompromising excellence means that nothing sucks. And no, it's not a level playing field -- BMW and Porsche will get the benefit of the doubt more than Corvette. Them's the breaks.
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I am seeing the C7 heading away from the niche' that the Viper occupies. The C7 may end up being 300lbs lighter and physically smaller than the Viper. The speculative pics are showing us a Corvette that will be tasteful in design, something that may be more appealing to a worldwide audience .

I think the Viper is a missed opportunity for Chrysler Fiat. Heck, the ball players don't like them either.
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991
F3x M3
Cayman/Boxster

IMO.

Cars like the GT-R and the Viper will be for higher performing Corvette models to take care of.



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