Has GM waited too long?
09-03-2012, 11:00 AM
#21
Le Mans Master
The new Viper is NOT in production yet. 
09-03-2012, 01:09 PM
#24
Oh Snap!
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight.
You should read about the competition before they pass you by.
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight.
You should read about the competition before they pass you by.
Event organizers were quick to clarify that the car driving across the stage was not the actual SRT Viper model the lot winner would be driving home, since the vehicle was still a prototype, but the right to get the very first production SRT Viper off Detroit’s Conner Avenue line when production officially begins in a few months.
09-03-2012, 01:36 PM
#25
Not that it really matters for the C7 but the pricing and production of the SRT Viper is still slated for the 4'th quarter of 2012 but the vehicle is NOT yet available or in production.
This feels like a bad case of Deja Vu. I have been keeping an eye on the Canon EOS 1DX which is Canon's top digital SLR because I plan to replace mine which is the previous model. Canon received a similar "lashing" from enthusiasts and would-be enthusiasts because it wasn't released quickly enough. From early reports it appears the wait was well worth it and as soon as the street price drops a bit I will place my order. I expect to have the same experience with the C7 although its street price will be about 10X the camera price and 100X the fun
This feels like a bad case of Deja Vu. I have been keeping an eye on the Canon EOS 1DX which is Canon's top digital SLR because I plan to replace mine which is the previous model. Canon received a similar "lashing" from enthusiasts and would-be enthusiasts because it wasn't released quickly enough. From early reports it appears the wait was well worth it and as soon as the street price drops a bit I will place my order. I expect to have the same experience with the C7 although its street price will be about 10X the camera price and 100X the fun
09-03-2012, 02:52 PM
#26
Melting Slicks
Oh Snap!
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight.
You should read about the competition before they pass you by.
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight.
You should read about the competition before they pass you by.
09-03-2012, 06:03 PM
#27
Le Mans Master
GM is not going to rearrange Corvette's schedule to avoid losing a handful of sales to Viper.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
09-03-2012, 06:07 PM
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GM is not going to rearrange Corvette's schedule to avoid losing a handful of sales to Viper.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
09-03-2012, 08:04 PM
#29
GM is not going to rearrange Corvette's schedule to avoid losing a handful of sales to Viper.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
The first Vipers will go to Viper fans who wouldn't buy a Corvette anyway. (Or who are moneyed enough to have one of each, or buy a new car every year or two.)
Corvette won't compete head-to-head with Viper for sales until a higher performance C7 is revealed, and that probably won't happen for over a year.
As for C7 reveal, why would they NOT do it at the Detroit show? It's home turf, and it gets huge press.
09-03-2012, 10:48 PM
#31
Le Mans Master
Oh Snap!
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight. Actually you do NOT. ....
http://www.crownchryslerdodgenews.co...y-For-Charity/
Another source so you do not embarrass yourself again!
http://wot.motortrend.com/first-prod...on-222821.html
I do have my facts straight.
Actually you do NOT. ....And then read this one.
http://www.racer.com/first-productio...rticle/247516/
See what it states? Production will start later this year. You can find that fact in many places once you learn how to search the web better.
Don't embarrass yourself too much more on this issue.
09-03-2012, 10:51 PM
#33
Le Mans Master
09-03-2012, 11:37 PM
#35
Race Director
I'm sorry, I just have to get in here:
1. It is NOT a DODGE Viper anymore, it is SRT Viper
2. Anyone that thinks the SRT Viper looks like anything other than the previous gen Viper coupe, time for new glasses!
3. Anyone that thinks the Viper will have ANY impact on C7 sales, please do some research on Viper sales through the years. The Viper is NOT now and never has been a Corvette competitor. From 2002 to present, the BEST YEAR of Viper sales was 2003 with 2,103 cars sold FOR THE YEAR (about a normal MONTH of Corvette sales back then).
From a sales standpoint, the Viper's biggest competitor seems to be the Nissan GT-R, which is struggling to move 150 cars a month in the US (I saw some sales numbers for the GT-R that were shocking, like January 2011 where Nissan sold 22 GT-R's in the U.S.!!!!!
Jimmy
1. It is NOT a DODGE Viper anymore, it is SRT Viper
2. Anyone that thinks the SRT Viper looks like anything other than the previous gen Viper coupe, time for new glasses!
3. Anyone that thinks the Viper will have ANY impact on C7 sales, please do some research on Viper sales through the years. The Viper is NOT now and never has been a Corvette competitor. From 2002 to present, the BEST YEAR of Viper sales was 2003 with 2,103 cars sold FOR THE YEAR (about a normal MONTH of Corvette sales back then).
From a sales standpoint, the Viper's biggest competitor seems to be the Nissan GT-R, which is struggling to move 150 cars a month in the US (I saw some sales numbers for the GT-R that were shocking, like January 2011 where Nissan sold 22 GT-R's in the U.S.!!!!!
Jimmy
09-03-2012, 11:51 PM
#37
Le Mans Master
I'm sorry, I just have to get in here:
1. It is NOT a DODGE Viper anymore, it is SRT Viper
2. Anyone that thinks the SRT Viper looks like anything other than the previous gen Viper coupe, time for new glasses!
3. Anyone that thinks the Viper will have ANY impact on C7 sales, please do some research on Viper sales through the years. The Viper is NOT now and never has been a Corvette competitor. From 2002 to present, the BEST YEAR of Viper sales was 2003 with 2,103 cars sold FOR THE YEAR (about a normal MONTH of Corvette sales back then).
From a sales standpoint, the Viper's biggest competitor seems to be the Nissan GT-R, which is struggling to move 150 cars a month in the US (I saw some sales numbers for the GT-R that were shocking, like January 2011 where Nissan sold 22 GT-R's in the U.S.!!!!!
Jimmy
1. It is NOT a DODGE Viper anymore, it is SRT Viper
2. Anyone that thinks the SRT Viper looks like anything other than the previous gen Viper coupe, time for new glasses!
3. Anyone that thinks the Viper will have ANY impact on C7 sales, please do some research on Viper sales through the years. The Viper is NOT now and never has been a Corvette competitor. From 2002 to present, the BEST YEAR of Viper sales was 2003 with 2,103 cars sold FOR THE YEAR (about a normal MONTH of Corvette sales back then).
From a sales standpoint, the Viper's biggest competitor seems to be the Nissan GT-R, which is struggling to move 150 cars a month in the US (I saw some sales numbers for the GT-R that were shocking, like January 2011 where Nissan sold 22 GT-R's in the U.S.!!!!!
Jimmy
Especially over all the gushing over its looks. It is the same basic car on the outside as the expired car.
09-04-2012, 12:06 AM
#38
Race Director
Jimmy
09-04-2012, 05:39 AM
#39
Le Mans Master
If it goes til Spring that ABSOLUTELY they waited longer than they should have... I would like at least 3 months before if I plan on buying a C7 considering I will have to preorder any limited production car I do buy.
A January unveiling should be a lock this car is finished its being driven people have seen it. GM should wait until a major event like the Auto Show for the unveiling as not only will the next few months build anticipation but the sheer magnitude of onlookers will help the cars marketability. Unveiling it on Car and Driver is just cheap. If they however miss the Detroit Auto Show than heads should roll... if they are that desperate to sell 13s they need to wait 3 months before they are being shipped at Dealers than that's just pathetic...
A January unveiling should be a lock this car is finished its being driven people have seen it. GM should wait until a major event like the Auto Show for the unveiling as not only will the next few months build anticipation but the sheer magnitude of onlookers will help the cars marketability. Unveiling it on Car and Driver is just cheap. If they however miss the Detroit Auto Show than heads should roll... if they are that desperate to sell 13s they need to wait 3 months before they are being shipped at Dealers than that's just pathetic...
09-04-2012, 09:43 AM
#40
I wasn't suggesting that they wait til spring, only that I haven't seen anything official about it being in January. I don't know why they would put the reveal off unless they just aren't ready.
I think it would be a mistake to put it off til spring unless you were selling them very soon thereafter and from what I can tell that's not gonna happen because they aren't ready at the factory.
I think it would be a mistake to put it off til spring unless you were selling them very soon thereafter and from what I can tell that's not gonna happen because they aren't ready at the factory.