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PRE-Z06

Ironically the bigger engine with less valves/cylinder gets better gas mileage.

I like people who only compare peak hp numbers as I enjoy taking their money when racing.

To the OP, the 505hp C6Z doesn't get walked on by the new GT500 and it doesn't have the better coefficient of drag nor the gearing advantage of the C7 so should make it's acceleration numbers pretty close.

Hope this wasn't already coverered as I didn't waste my time in reading all 10 pages.

scooter mcfly

Was at a Ford dearler recently and they had a new Boss 302 for....$83,000! How's that c7 lookin now? And yes, I know it is no longer in production, but if you want the same performance, that's about what a GT500 will run you.

By the way, is it socially acceptible to like Corvettes AND Mustangs? Just askin...

ParisTNDude

It looks to me like Shelby guys insist on comparing the 2013 GT500 to the 2012 ZL1 when everyone knows Chevy built the ZL1 to compete with the 2012 and earlier GT500s. Those GT500s ran 12.3s @ 118 MPH. The ZL1 still gave up 300 lbs to that car and the HP ratings were pretty close. Even the bone stock supersnake didn't break into the 11s...see
If you compare Chevy's most expensive performance car to the GT500, it's got to be the ZR1. If you compare Chevy's highest HP rated car, it's got to be the ZR1. Mustang guys don't think any comparison to a GT500 is fair unless it has nearly 100 HP more. Honestly, I would agree with that, since without it, the comparison would be absurd.

This thread title is something like GT500 662 hp for $54K VS a 450 HP Corvette for $60K with less HP. No $54K GT500 would compare to either the C7 Vette or the ZL1 if you know anything about Mustangs. It takes the SVT Track Pack option in the Mustang to come even close and that runs the price to well over $60K not counting the dealer markup bumping it to $71K (Jenkins Wynn Ford, Clarksville, TN)

With a suspension system just a little better than Caesar's chariots, the GT500 really is a dinosaur compared to Corvettes and not much better compared to Chevy's other hot cars.

jackhall99

If you are a car guy/gal, yes it is. And Porsches, Ferraris, GTRs, Miatas and every other car available.

superchevy32

So I heard a story when I was a teenager. A guys dad drove a vette. Apparently his wife kept complaining that he was not in touch enough with her feminine side......... So the next day that guys dad went out an bought a mustang.

PureSwank

Seriously? I will GUARANTEE that a 680HP GT500 Will launch that **** out of a C6 Z06 on the Strip. Put M/T's on both and the 680Hp is going to launch like a bat out of hell. I really hate watching people talk down on a "Mustang" those ***** can put in work. And I'll say this as well, The new GT500 will pull on the C7 as well and will go at it with the C7 Z06 with right tires ONLY. Might I add, I don't even own a mustang. I'm just a realist.

Carver Electrics

Yeah but you own a Nissan 370. You lose a lot of cred with that car.

Aaron Keating

http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/

I'm not worried about what the Stang can do in a straight.

Because that's all it's good for. And lets face it, it's more common for the Shelby to run around 65k.

Sure you can get (allegedly) one for 53 grand.

But let's face it, it's not going to corner nearly as well as even a C6 with Z51 package, let alone the C7.

I'd hate to be the guy in the Shelby on Laguna Seca on a track day when a C7 rolled onto the field.

the cheapest Shelby you'd actually want for performance reasons is 53,600. That gives it the gas sucking 3.73 gear ratio, and the SVT handling package. That's assuming the car has none of the special bodywork on it or badges (which run the car's cost up a couple grand easy) nor the actually Good seats for hard cornering around a track (which add another 1500).

And frankly I still wouldn't put my money on the shelby taking a C6 Grand Sport shoed in the Michelin Sport Cup R meats, around Laguna, or a myriad of other tracks. Especially after the first hero lap is done, since the Porker Shelby has massive brake fade issues.

Now if we really want to get nuts. Do you know what kind of speed Gen 4 birdy is capable of with even just 20 grand of work into it? You could make a birdy that would smoke the porker shelby all day and all night on both the road coarse, and the dragstrip. Value per dollar, buying either of those cars is Silly to put it mildly for pure performance reasons. You're buying them because A you have more money than sense to wait for them to come up used later, and B you're buying them for Style. And the two cars (vette and stang) operate in two very different styles and markets.

superchevy32

No matter what you drive you should atleast be able to agree that every single person that says its apples and oranges is exactly right. The corvette has never been a dig car, it was not made to launch out of the whole. They were never designed for the dragstrip, people turn them into drag cars. Take the mustang to the the road course which is where the corvette thrives an she will put bus links on the gt. its all a matter of where a car makes its home.

You start talking dragstrip, you should be talking camaro..... But...... This isn't a camaro forum. Lol

Skafte

I specifically said on a track. I'm fully aware that the GT500 is a drag strip monster.

Carver Electrics

With all the performance goodies possible the Stang comes in at $63,080. That is with the seat option at $1500.

Without some of the goodies a very well equipped GT starts at $54,200 is hell of a bargain.

PureSwank

That rights. And also own a modified 2010 Hayabusa. And a 630rwhp C6Z06 and Looking at a new Dodge Viper. You? Go suck a nut lil mama. **** it, I'll throw in a Lambo as well as soon as my wife graduates from her Residency Program lmao!!!

Carver Electrics

You're looking at a Dodge Viper and C6Z?. Wow..

Well in that case your a legend in your own mind.

oicw

A Busa / ZX14 with a couple mods will launch the sh*t out of a Desmosedici. So Ducati was an idiot huh?

Let me get this straight, you can't talk down to a car if that said car out drags you? Hmm, good thing I can still talk down to the owner of a Ferrari 250 GTO. After all, I can launch the crap out of that $20m pos.

PureSwank

Lmao you obviously can't read from the looks of it. So read the post again. I even added another surprise for you baby. YOLO!

68/70Vette

My 6.2 liter C6 runs 1700 rpm at 70 mpg and gets an honest 27 mpg. The relatively large displacement, low end torque, relatively light weight means I can easily maneuver faster then almost all cars in city and freeway traffic. I don't exceed 2000 rpm hardly ever. From what I read, the base engine will run the quarter mile in the 12's which is better than the late 60's early 70's Detroit muscle cars. The base engine Corvette is 100's of pounds lighter than the Mustang (400 lbs) and has a much better weight distribution...I think the Mustang is 60% on the front wheels? The Corvette is about 50/50 with I think a little more on the rear wheels. Anyhow, just to make sure I don't get intimidated by a Mustang, I added a supercharger to my C6 08. 580 rwhp. Exhilarating performance. It's a centrifugal 'charger so I don't effect my gasoline mileage cruising on the freeway at 1700 rpm.

PureSwank

I'm not talking down on anything old geezer. Simmer down. I'm actually defending the mustang from all the people talking down on it. Wait you did read the post right. Buddy.

Carver Electrics

Wow..you are so cool. Here you are in the middle of the night boasting to complete and total strangers on the net of all places. You must be a big hit with the kids on Myspace.

Skafte

The GT500 is a great car for what it is. But very few people (yes, I know there are some out there, but you're a minority) will cross-shop the C7 and the Mustang. They're not targeting the same demographic, you're not buying the GT500 if you're enthusiastic about handling and you're not buying the base C7 if you're looking for something that will break the sound barrier in a straight line.