A different view on the 450hp/450tq numbers…
01-22-2013, 03:34 PM
#21
Race Director
Yes but it weights over 2 tons. The zl1 has what 550+ and is about as fast or a bit faster then a ls3 c6 with 436hp(with npp) All about power to weight and how it gets put down. hell my C5 has no problems with them..(The srt8 I meant)
01-22-2013, 03:37 PM
#22
Le Mans Master
enough to keep me happy. I can't believe i'm actually going to say this, but hp isn't the only number that matters for a car's performance. I'd rather see GM spend their development time on making the car handle better. Maybe I'm 
01-22-2013, 03:39 PM
#23
Le Mans Master
Have you seen 0-60 or 1/4 miles times?
01-22-2013, 03:41 PM
#24
Safety Car
1) The 450/450 number was crank. Pretty easy to figure that out when the LT1 was publicly introduced way back in November at its own Press Conference.
2) Estimated, means estimated. Who knows what the finalized number will be, but the estimated 450 would mean "atleast" that much. Wouldnt be surprised to see 470-480 as a final number.
2) Estimated, means estimated. Who knows what the finalized number will be, but the estimated 450 would mean "atleast" that much. Wouldnt be surprised to see 470-480 as a final number.
01-22-2013, 03:41 PM
#25
Team Owner
The LT1 is definitely a good engine and no doubt the extra torque will be fantastic in the lower RPMs...absolutely no arguments there.
However, when racing, I don't dip below 4000 RPM so the extra torque doesn't mean squat to me. HP is what accelerates a vehicle so HP is what I want. Therefore, I will complain loudly with my wallet if the LT1 comes in at 450 HP...there's not enough of a performance difference between 436 and 450 to move me to the C7. The Camaro tail lights means GM better come to market with at least 475 HP for me to even think about it, 500 HP will help me seriously consider a C7. My 2˘ from a different perspective.
However, when racing, I don't dip below 4000 RPM so the extra torque doesn't mean squat to me. HP is what accelerates a vehicle so HP is what I want. Therefore, I will complain loudly with my wallet if the LT1 comes in at 450 HP...there's not enough of a performance difference between 436 and 450 to move me to the C7. The Camaro tail lights means GM better come to market with at least 475 HP for me to even think about it, 500 HP will help me seriously consider a C7. My 2˘ from a different perspective.
01-22-2013, 03:42 PM
#26
People get stuck on power/weight but with cars today, its kind of unreliable. I think the C7 will most likely be a good bit faster through the traps than a C6 or GS.
R&T said that Corvette engineers were telling them that the base Stingray could take the C6 GS on the track. Take it for what you will. We won't find out for a good while but the Z51 should be in the low/mid-7:30's at the Nurburgring IMO.
R&T said that Corvette engineers were telling them that the base Stingray could take the C6 GS on the track. Take it for what you will. We won't find out for a good while but the Z51 should be in the low/mid-7:30's at the Nurburgring IMO.
01-22-2013, 03:42 PM
#27
Safety Car
01-22-2013, 03:46 PM
#28
Le Mans Master
01-22-2013, 03:56 PM
#29
01-22-2013, 03:59 PM
#30
Team Owner
1) The 450/450 number was crank. Pretty easy to figure that out when the LT1 was publicly introduced way back in November at its own Press Conference.
2) Estimated, means estimated. Who knows what the finalized number will be, but the estimated 450 would mean "atleast" that much. Wouldnt be surprised to see 470-480 as a final number.
2) Estimated, means estimated. Who knows what the finalized number will be, but the estimated 450 would mean "atleast" that much. Wouldnt be surprised to see 470-480 as a final number.
01-22-2013, 04:04 PM
#31
Safety Car
01-22-2013, 04:06 PM
#32
Le Mans Master
01-22-2013, 04:09 PM
#33
01-22-2013, 04:09 PM
#34
Safety Car
I'm definitely open to betting a few bucks that when the C7 base coupe is sitting on dealer floors, available for sale.. it will be officially rated MORE than 450hp in the factory brochure.
Last edited by Daekwan06; 01-22-2013 at 04:11 PM.
01-22-2013, 04:11 PM
#35
Le Mans Master
01-22-2013, 04:13 PM
#36
The LT1 is definitely a good engine and no doubt the extra torque will be fantastic in the lower RPMs...absolutely no arguments there.
However, when racing, I don't dip below 4000 RPM so the extra torque doesn't mean squat to me. HP is what accelerates a vehicle so HP is what I want. Therefore, I will complain loudly with my wallet if the LT1 comes in at 450 HP...there's not enough of a performance difference between 436 and 450 to move me to the C7. The Camaro tail lights means GM better come to market with at least 475 HP for me to even think about it, 500 HP will help me seriously consider a C7. My 2˘ from a different perspective.
However, when racing, I don't dip below 4000 RPM so the extra torque doesn't mean squat to me. HP is what accelerates a vehicle so HP is what I want. Therefore, I will complain loudly with my wallet if the LT1 comes in at 450 HP...there's not enough of a performance difference between 436 and 450 to move me to the C7. The Camaro tail lights means GM better come to market with at least 475 HP for me to even think about it, 500 HP will help me seriously consider a C7. My 2˘ from a different perspective.
Of the little things wrong with the car it's likely performance isn't one of them. Not from what I've seen in GT5 at least.
01-22-2013, 04:18 PM
#37
This. I have no doubt the real number is higher than 450. Remember they set the target coal for the ZR1 at 600 - it came in at 638. Ditto the Z06, when it came out the initial target was less than 500 and it came in a 505.
01-22-2013, 04:18 PM
#38
Safety Car
01-22-2013, 04:20 PM
#39
Got Boost?!
Guys. Guys! C'mon, we all know this is the BASE model. What we all want is the "Z06" version and what the performance numbers will be. I guarantee we will be satisfied with the "upgraded" version. The base model should cater to the taste of the average Vette owner, while people like us will be waiting for the track attack version =) It is a marketing scheme. We know how this is going to play out. Sit tight and relax for two more years. In two years, you WILL have the Vette that you are hoping for.
01-22-2013, 04:24 PM
#40
Le Mans Master
No one knows anything for sure except GM and im not even sure they are a 100% sure.
