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Old 02-07-2013, 05:37 AM   #1
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Default Any way for Joe Q. Public to talk to Tadge ???

This is really frustrating for me. It seems the only people that get to talk or ask questions to Tadge or Ed Welburn is " Matt Lauer", or "Jay Leno", or "Csaba Csere", or some other journalist. None of these people will ever ask the tough questions to these guys.

I'd love a chance to get a one on one with these guys. I'd be respectful, but I wouldn't mince words or bite my tongue. I've brought the coal to the feet of a few politicians before when no one else would.
If given the chance, I'd ask: ....

* Hey guys, you've gotten 90% of the C7 correct, but little trim decisions have brought that opinion number down to about 60%. Surely you must know this?

* Gentlemen, with the intricate design of the tail lights put aside, the back end of the car is still incredibly busy! Overwhelming concensus is there's just too much crammed into such a small area. (Black-out paint, vents & more vents, oversized emblems, closely placed lettering, cuts and creases, ... gosh! Did the designers really not see this???

* Do you guys depend on focus groups a little too much perhaps? Do you really think this select group of invitees represent what the public really feels? Have you or would you be open to trying other non traditional means of gauging the public sentiment?

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:47 AM   #2
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I think your only shot would be at the bash and with that doubt it would be in a public forum.It is a weekend event and maybe you would be a able to corner him on the side. Good luck with that!!
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I think the best way to make your point is to not buy a C7. Maybe a another car is more to your liking. That'll get their attention, if that's all your after.
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I think the best way to make your point is to not buy a C7. Maybe a another car is more to your liking. That'll get their attention, if that's all your after.


At the end of the day, its all about sales. The first few years of sales figures will prove if they got it right or not.
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This is really frustrating for me. It seems the only people that get to talk or ask questions to Tadge or Ed Welburn is " Matt Lauer", or "Jay Leno", or "Csaba Csere", or some other journalist. None of these people will ever ask the tough questions to these guys.

I'd love a chance to get a one on one with these guys. I'd be respectful, but I wouldn't mince words or bite my tongue. I've brought the coal to the feet of a few politicians before when no one else would.
If given the chance, I'd ask: ....

* Hey guys, you've gotten 90% of the C7 correct, but little trim decisions have brought that opinion number down to about 60%. Surely you must know this?

* Gentlemen, with the intricate design of the tail lights put aside, the back end of the car is still incredibly busy! Overwhelming concensus is there's just too much crammed into such a small area. (Black-out paint, vents & more vents, oversized emblems, closely placed lettering, cuts and creases, ... gosh! Did the designers really not see this???

* Do you guys depend on focus groups a little too much perhaps? Do you really think this select group of invitees represent what the public really feels? Have you or would you be open to trying other non traditional means of gauging the public sentiment?
I think your percentages are way off. I'm one who thinks they are absolutely spot on with everything they have done. I also believe the designers know far more what needs to be done to get new people into the Corvette fold as well as some who had left. I for one bought a couple of Vettes in my youth than changed over to Ferrari's. I would come back now. I waffled on the C6 ZR1 as I really was impressed with the overall platform but when I saw the Jalopnik leak on Thanksgiving day of 2011 I knew that was it. I could see it when most were blind to it. I have a design background and it just amazes me what some of the naysayers are whining about. I truly think the C6 is a beautiful car and it certainly is a stud, but maybe some of you should wait to see it in person before you bring somebodies feet to the fire.
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This is really frustrating for me. It seems the only people that get to talk or ask questions to Tadge or Ed Welburn is " Matt Lauer", or "Jay Leno", or "Csaba Csere", or some other journalist. None of these people will ever ask the tough questions to these guys.

I'd love a chance to get a one on one with these guys. I'd be respectful, but I wouldn't mince words or bite my tongue. I've brought the coal to the feet of a few politicians before when no one else would.
If given the chance, I'd ask: ....

* Hey guys, you've gotten 90% of the C7 correct, but little trim decisions have brought that opinion number down to about 60%. Surely you must know this?

* Gentlemen, with the intricate design of the tail lights put aside, the back end of the car is still incredibly busy! Overwhelming concensus is there's just too much crammed into such a small area. (Black-out paint, vents & more vents, oversized emblems, closely placed lettering, cuts and creases, ... gosh! Did the designers really not see this???

* Do you guys depend on focus groups a little too much perhaps? Do you really think this select group of invitees represent what the public really feels? Have you or would you be open to trying other non traditional means of gauging the public sentiment?
these are tough questions?
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:13 AM   #7
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these are tough questions?
the car is stunning in every way. Im buying one, as are a lot of other people who have seen it in the flesh. Your topics have been rehashed over and over by a small minority i believe, I also think the car is going to sell like it hasnt sold in years. I think a lot of people are going to say, damn it I want this car. I think its thats good. Yes color will make a difference here. But when I see the car beside the f12 berlinetta, and 599,and it looks like it belongs, then my question would be to myself, " what more could I want?"
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I like what they did as well. They'll never build a car that everyone likes.
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I think your percentages are way off. I'm one who thinks they are absolutely spot on with everything they have done. I also believe the designers know far more what needs to be done to get new people into the Corvette fold as well as some who had left. I for one bought a couple of Vettes in my youth than changed over to Ferrari's. I would come back now. I waffled on the C6 ZR1 as I really was impressed with the overall platform but when I saw the Jalopnik leak on Thanksgiving day of 2011 I knew that was it. I could see it when most were blind to it. I have a design background and it just amazes me what some of the naysayers are whining about. I truly think the C6 is a beautiful car and it certainly is a stud, but maybe some of you should wait to see it in person before you bring somebodies feet to the fire.
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Try contacting him directly by joining Linkedin in the below to set up a possible conversation with him.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tadge-ju...59b?_mSplash=1
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:05 AM   #11
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Yep....buy Corvette Corral tickets for Sebring..drive down here for the race....we talk to Tadge every year along with Harlan Charles. Tom Wallace was there 2 years ago. Will Cooksey shows up every year as well even though he is retired he loves the race at Sebring.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:10 AM   #12
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It's amazing how people seem to think that their own personal opinion is somehow fact, and it somehow carries more weight than those of the focus groups with whom GM worked when designing the C7.
If you don't like the car, don't buy it. I'm betting Corvette will see an increase in sales over the next few years as they attract buyers who previously would not have considered one.
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I cannot say he will be attending any of the Corvette Corrals this year, but he was at Sebring last year in to corral and was a speaker. At the end he took any and all question from those in the tent. So yes there is a chances. You may contact the NCM and see if they know who will be at the different corrals this year and also check to see what speakers they have lined up for the different events at the museum. Other then that, I don't think you have much of a chance of going one on one.

Now all those that don't want to hear anything negative, this is not meant to be, just a point that if you do ask him or any other design engineer, you may not get the 100% true answer. At Sebring last year (March 2012) during the question and answer session, someone asked if the C7 was going to have the Camaro tail lights. Tadge stood there and said "No it will not have Camaro tail lights". Now in my opinion he did not lie, as we all know they are not Camaro tail lights.

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This is really frustrating for me. It seems the only people that get to talk or ask questions to Tadge or Ed Welburn is " Matt Lauer", or "Jay Leno", or "Csaba Csere", or some other journalist. None of these people will ever ask the tough questions to these guys.

I'd love a chance to get a one on one with these guys. I'd be respectful, but I wouldn't mince words or bite my tongue. I've brought the coal to the feet of a few politicians before when no one else would.
If given the chance, I'd ask: ....

* Hey guys, you've gotten 90% of the C7 correct, but little trim decisions have brought that opinion number down to about 60%. Surely you must know this?

* Gentlemen, with the intricate design of the tail lights put aside, the back end of the car is still incredibly busy! Overwhelming concensus is there's just too much crammed into such a small area. (Black-out paint, vents & more vents, oversized emblems, closely placed lettering, cuts and creases, ... gosh! Did the designers really not see this???

* Do you guys depend on focus groups a little too much perhaps? Do you really think this select group of invitees represent what the public really feels? Have you or would you be open to trying other non traditional means of gauging the public sentiment?
I WOULD SAY THAT IS COMPLETE hogwash RESPECTFULLY.....THEY NAILED IT
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It's amazing how people seem to think that their own personal opinion is somehow fact, and it somehow carries more weight than those of the focus groups with whom GM worked when designing the C7.
If you don't like the car, don't buy it. I'm betting Corvette will see an increase in sales over the next few years as they attract buyers who previously would not have considered one.
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I agree. What the OP is talking about are highly subjective opinions that have nothing to do with the function of the car - he just doesn't like the looks of it. Until the car goes on sale and we see how it sells there is no right or wrong answer.
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the car is stunning in every way. Im buying one, as are a lot of other people who have seen it in the flesh. Your topics have been rehashed over and over by a small minority i believe, I also think the car is going to sell like it hasnt sold in years. I think a lot of people are going to say, damn it I want this car. I think its thats good. Yes color will make a difference here. But when I see the car beside the f12 berlinetta, and 599,and it looks like it belongs, then my question would be to myself, " what more could I want?"

I made a special trip to Detroit to see the C7 in the flesh. I haven't seen a C7 picture yet that looks a good as the car does in person. It's a jaw-dropper. It wouldn't look out of place parked next to cars costing 2 or 3 times as much.
IMHO, many of the negative feelings about the C7s appearance will diminish as more and more people see the actual car on the street.
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I made a special trip to Detroit to see the C7 in the flesh. I haven't seen a C7 picture yet that looks a good as the car does in person. It's a jaw-dropper. It wouldn't look out of place parked next to cars costing 2 or 3 times as much.
IMHO, many of the negative feelings about the C7s appearance will diminish as more and more people see the actual car on the street.
yes, thats what I think also.
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He will probally be at Corvette of Carlisle at the end of August. You can talk to him there....
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Those are not "tough questions", they are personal styling gripes. Tadge would laugh at you
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I cannot say he will be attending any of the Corvette Corrals this year, but he was at Sebring last year in to corral and was a speaker. At the end he took any and all question from those in the tent. So yes there is a chances. You may contact the NCM and see if they know who will be at the different corrals this year and also check to see what speakers they have lined up for the different events at the museum. Other then that, I don't think you have much of a chance of going one on one.

Now all those that don't want to hear anything negative, this is not meant to be, just a point that if you do ask him or any other design engineer, you may not get the 100% true answer. At Sebring last year (March 2012) during the question and answer session, someone asked if the C7 was going to have the Camaro tail lights. Tadge stood there and said "No it will not have Camaro tail lights". Now in my opinion he did not lie, as we all know they are not Camaro tail lights.

well they made the last few so I suspect with the new car they will be out in force again......see ya in March
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