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Old 02-08-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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Default C6 427 Convertible versus C7 Convertible

I assume the C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 convertible but what about price? Won't the C7 cost less?
I am looking at year end specials on 427 convertibles and they are still very expensive when compared to 6.2L convertibles.
How will dealers move these cars when the C7 comes out? Should they try dumping them now?

Glad its not my problem.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:51 PM   #2
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I don't know, but after seeing the 427 Convertibles in person, I'd say that model will probably go down in Corvettes 60 year history as the MOST gorgeous corvette of all time. C7 is beautiful, but not 427 convertible beautiful. Side by side comparision would certainly be cool.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:51 PM   #3
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I assume the C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 convertible but what about price? Won't the C7 cost less?
I am looking at year end specials on 427 convertibles and they are still very expensive when compared to 6.2L convertibles.
How will dealers move these cars when the C7 comes out? Should they try dumping them now?

Glad its not my problem.
Until the new C7 in convertible form is going to production and pricing is announced, we won't know anything.
That could be the end of this year, or maybe next. Stay tuned.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:52 PM   #4
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I think this is an interesting question. I like the 427, and I assume I will like the C7 vert once its revealed (like the coupe so why not the vert). So which will be the better price point and value?
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:55 PM   #5
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I hope the C7 convertible has real roll over protection with functional seat hoops.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:55 PM   #6
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BUT, I bet once the C7 feeding frenzy starts there should be plenty of used 427's littering the country as throw aways. You may find pricing rather pleasant.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:58 PM   #7
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I assume the C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 convertible but what about price? Won't the C7 cost less?
I am looking at year end specials on 427 convertibles and they are still very expensive when compared to 6.2L convertibles.
How will dealers move these cars when the C7 comes out? Should they try dumping them now?

Glad its not my problem.
Why would you assume that the C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 Convertible? Is it because the LT1 in the C7 has less torque and less horsepower then the LS7 in the 427 Convertible? Or is it because the C7 Convertible weights as much(or more) as the 427 Convertible?

Or is it because GM has personally told you that the LT1 C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 Convertible(as they sure haven't told anyone else)?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:08 PM   #8
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I highly doubt that the C7 Convertible will out perform the 427 Convertible. It will most likely weigh about the same and have less HP and slightly less torque. I think it will be at least a tenth of a second slower to 60.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:13 PM   #9
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My guess would be that a 2014 (57% stiffer) aluminum-framed 450+hp/450 lb ft torque vert with better seats and tires will be pretty popular. BUT, I would say the same for the 2013 427 vert that will sell for less. What a great problem to have, deciding between those two!

I can't wait for the comparo...
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Why would you assume that the C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 Convertible? Is it because the LT1 in the C7 has less torque and less horsepower then the LS7 in the 427 Convertible? Or is it because the C7 Convertible weights as much(or more) as the 427 Convertible?

Or is it because GM has personally told you that the LT1 C7 convertible is as fast as the 427 Convertible(as they sure haven't told anyone else)?
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I highly doubt that the C7 Convertible will out perform the 427 Convertible. It will most likely weigh about the same and have less HP and slightly less torque. I think it will be at least a tenth of a second slower to 60.
Yea, maybe. But 1 tenth is not a lot considering, the C7 will probably hook up better and the owners of the 427 from what I have seen and heard are probably not in the habit of launching a 505hp car. I expect a lot of illegal stop light to stop light wins for the C7.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:42 PM   #11
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I don't know, but after seeing the 427 Convertibles in person, I'd say that model will probably go down in Corvettes 60 year history as the MOST gorgeous corvette of all time. C7 is beautiful, but not 427 convertible beautiful. Side by side comparision would certainly be cool.
Really, I like the looks of the GS vert much better. Plus if you are including all models, then no way, nothing looks cooler and meaner than a ZR1 or even a Carbon Z06.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:00 PM   #12
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......... nothing looks cooler and meaner than a ZR1 or even a Carbon Z06.


Nothing at this point is meaner looking, or faster than the two above models....IMO of course.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:20 PM   #13
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I don't know, but after seeing the 427 Convertibles in person, I'd say that model will probably go down in Corvettes 60 year history as the MOST gorgeous corvette of all time. C7 is beautiful, but not 427 convertible beautiful. Side by side comparision would certainly be cool.
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Really, I like the looks of the GS vert much better. Plus if you are including all models, then no way, nothing looks cooler and meaner than a ZR1 or even a Carbon Z06.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. The 427 convertible looks exactly like any other widebody C6 vert... The same goes for the ZR1 and Z06. They all share basically the same body as the GS with some trim differences, different wheels, different badges but essentially they all look the same. What am I missing here?

I agree the 427 vert is a very desirable car but it's becuase of what's under the hood, not because of its looks.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:26 PM   #14
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I don't know, but after seeing the 427 Convertibles in person, I'd say that model will probably go down in Corvettes 60 year history as the MOST gorgeous corvette of all time. C7 is beautiful, but not 427 convertible beautiful. Side by side comparision would certainly be cool.
And the C7 won't be as fast.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:50 PM   #15
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It's funny how every time a new vette is announced, the same discussion takes place. The C6 is now yesterday's newspapers & once the C7 starts being produced & available, all interest will be about the new vette & the old one will be just that, old. In 6/8 months, nobody will care about the C6 anymore. Just like the fact most of us C6 owners seldom venture over to the C5 section ( even though a lot of us owned one previously) as nobody cares much about the old versions except those who own them. Old technology is not interesting. We've already been there, done that.
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I highly doubt that the C7 Convertible will out perform the 427 Convertible. It will most likely weigh about the same and have less HP and slightly less torque. I think it will be at least a tenth of a second slower to 60.
Pretty questionable statement - the C7 coupe will more likely be 2/10ths slower than the Z06, and the C7 convertible will also be 2/10ths slower than the 427 convertible.

427 convertible
HP: 505
Weight: 3355 lbs.
0-60: 3.8

C7 convertible
HP: ~455
Weight: ~3400 lbs.
0-60: 4.0 (slower than C7 coupe)
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It's funny how every time a new vette is announced, the same discussion takes place. The C6 is now yesterday's newspapers & once the C7 starts being produced & available, all interest will be about the new vette & the old one will be just that, old. In 6/8 months, nobody will care about the C6 anymore. Just like the fact most of us C6 owners seldom venture over to the C5 section ( even though a lot of us owned one previously) as nobody cares much about the old versions except those who own them. Old technology is not interesting. We've already been there, done that.
One major flaw in this argument:

The C6 was a major performance step up from the C5. The C7 is less of a performance car in some respects (heavier, narrower, less tire, cylinder-deactivation, etc), and probably much higher priced. History may show the C6 wide-bodies as a more revered performance Corvette for the $$. And I don't believe there will ever be a wide-body C7.

I also don't believe GM's handling claims for the C7 - I think magazine tests will find the heavier, narrower car, on skinnier tires, difficult to match GM's inflated skid-pad claims.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:30 AM   #18
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Most of you are forgetting something very important. The 427 is a convertible, and guess what's coming? Summer! There is no c7 of any kind for months, never mind c7 vert this year.
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Tossup. Iconic engine vs better car. The used 427 will be cheaper and more "special".
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