A poll-should Tadge remain Corvette CE?
03-25-2013, 11:08 PM
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A poll-should Tadge remain Corvette CE?
I actually think he is not the right person for the job and should be replaced but this is just my own take.
03-25-2013, 11:10 PM
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03-25-2013, 11:11 PM
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03-25-2013, 11:18 PM
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What if the C7 sets sales records? I think it's a little early for a question like that. JMO
03-25-2013, 11:19 PM
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03-25-2013, 11:19 PM
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Good grief, 427! With all due respect, would you give "AWD" and "DCT" a rest! Every other post of yours is about this. 
If you want, at least sequential trans CAN be had, if you have a C6 (an assumption). Just contact LGM.
If you want, at least sequential trans CAN be had, if you have a C6 (an assumption). Just contact LGM.
03-25-2013, 11:24 PM
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You obviously have never driven a sequential transmission on the street.
It's a nightmare.
DCT has been offered in world class sports cars since 2008.
The failure to offer both DCT and AWD in the "clean sheet redesign" means Tadge failed and he needs to go.
03-25-2013, 11:31 PM
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03-25-2013, 11:34 PM
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03-25-2013, 11:40 PM
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Well, this is the absolutely DUMBEST non poll in the history of CF. First, there's NO poll, Second, it is started by folks that have NO clue what was the goal for the C7, and THIRD....well, it's just stupid. This weird love of AWD which ONLY gets you a quick 0 - 60 time but still gets slapped in a true road course time is just silly. There are ZERO track tests where a GT-R is quicker around a road course than a Z06/ZR1....NONE. AWD and DCT give you NUMBERS in a STRAIGHT LINE, PERIOD. I am SICK of this notion that the GT-R is this great track beast, it IS a really good STRAIGHT line car, which gets slaughtered when it's weight/understeer do it in when a true TRACK test is involved. To say that Tadge is/was the wrong guy shows how little you know about car design/engineering.
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03-25-2013, 11:41 PM
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What is wrong with real wheel drive and near perfect balance? C6R seems to do alright with this. Just because exotics offer it does that mean ever other maker should. And yes maybe Tadge is not the right person, but he'll do until another Golden Boy comes along. Chevrolet /GM could make an all wheel drive and a DCT for the Corvette and lose their market as these will raise the cost to near $100,000.00 for the base car. So I don't think he is a failure just needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut, as some others need not post dribble.
03-25-2013, 11:43 PM
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Of course he should go! How dare he not be able to build a car with at least 500HP, AWD, DCT,2900lbs, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and keep the price under 51k. And don't even get me started on the rear.......
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03-25-2013, 11:53 PM
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Ya know. Like how you can buy a $50k C6 with no options or a $120k ZR1 with all of them.
There is no way people are really this stupid.
No one is trying to take away your RWD and clutch pedal.
Don't try to deny others the options that we want and that the C7 needs to maintain and grow it's market share.
03-25-2013, 11:55 PM
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Ignorant thread!!
Given budget constraints, I don't see any other manufacturer creating the same car without it costing 10's of thousands more. GM is giving us one of the finest sports cars in the world for a starting price less than $60K!! This is an unbelievable accomplishment!!!
Given budget constraints, I don't see any other manufacturer creating the same car without it costing 10's of thousands more. GM is giving us one of the finest sports cars in the world for a starting price less than $60K!! This is an unbelievable accomplishment!!!
03-25-2013, 11:56 PM
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I have some old Corvette DVR's and in one of the videos they are doing an interview with , then Chief Engineer Dave Hill, in the background you see a young Tadge Juechter...
I suppose you would like the return of Tom Wallace...
I suppose you would like the return of Tom Wallace...
03-25-2013, 11:56 PM
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How about this. I wouldnt buy a corvette if it were AWD. Since when is AWD the best option? Maybe for initial traction off the line it is, but not around the track. DCT will probably be offered down the line.
And Tadge is da man!
And Tadge is da man!
03-26-2013, 12:00 AM
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AWD sucks after the first 1/4 mile from a Dig.
From a rolling start onward though it's a total joke.
There's a reason the GTR never showed up in ALMS and that's because AWD is terrible for road racing.
As far as DCT goes, meh. We'll have to see what the rev matching on the C7 is like.
And as far as Tadge is concerned, frankly I think he's abit more qualified where he is, vs say certain people in this forum.
427 do you have any idea what kind of engineering has to go into a car to make it AWD? It would not be the least bit cost effective in any sense of the word to add AWD to a RWD platform. A car with AWD has to be designed for it from the ground up, and even then all it does is add tons of un needed weight around a track.
From a rolling start onward though it's a total joke.
There's a reason the GTR never showed up in ALMS and that's because AWD is terrible for road racing.
As far as DCT goes, meh. We'll have to see what the rev matching on the C7 is like.
And as far as Tadge is concerned, frankly I think he's abit more qualified where he is, vs say certain people in this forum.
427 do you have any idea what kind of engineering has to go into a car to make it AWD? It would not be the least bit cost effective in any sense of the word to add AWD to a RWD platform. A car with AWD has to be designed for it from the ground up, and even then all it does is add tons of un needed weight around a track.
03-26-2013, 12:02 AM
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Well, this is the absolutely DUMBEST non poll in the history of CF. First, there's NO poll, Second, it is started by folks that have NO clue what was the goal for the C7, and THIRD....well, it's just stupid. This weird love of AWD which ONLY gets you a quick 0 - 60 time but still gets slapped in a true road course time is just silly. There are ZERO track tests where a GT-R is quicker around a road course than a Z06/ZR1....NONE. AWD and DCT give you NUMBERS in a STRAIGHT LINE, PERIOD. I am SICK of this notion that the GT-R is this great track beast, it IS a really good STRAIGHT line car, which gets slaughtered when it's weight/understeer do it in when a true TRACK test is involved. To say that Tadge is/was the wrong guy shows how little you know about car design/engineering.
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