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Old 04-30-2013, 05:10 PM
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Default OK, GM, 2013 427 Vert was a success, learn from it!!!

I hope GM is listening. The 427 Vert was a success and there is NO reason GM should not introduce a Z06 C7 next year in a hard-top only model. Go ahead and stick the more powerful C7 Z06 parts in a Vert right off the bat and put it on the market right after the hard top is released. My next Vette HAS to be a Vert and I would like to have 2 Z06s in the family.

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Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???





YaY! Corvette Team and the C7 Forum !!!!!! Grab your pom-poms.

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Old 04-30-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???





YaY! Corvette Team and the C7 Forum !!!!!! Grab your pom-poms.
And the A6 cant handle 500 hp yet Callaway puts down 600 !
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Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???
I always liked that excuse, especially since my wife and I did own a C4 targa top Vette for a while. If that chassis can handle a convertible, than ANY chassis can be a convertible. C4 chassis = flex as needed....


I promised my wife our next Vette would be a Vert, but I want the power. Do believe next Z06 will be normally aspirated, so a Vert is what I want. No supercharged/turbo charged...If so, then a Stingray Vert it is.
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I kind of liked their parts-bin strategy in the C6 lifespan. It kept the model lineup exciting to not offer everything at once.
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???

YaY! Corvette Team and the C7 Forum !!!!!! Grab your pom-poms.
Well, we get to hear from our two fav 'auto trannies'...

That said, I would suspect that the new aluminum frame structure was designed to handle it all for the C7 gen.

I also suspect that the new auto tranny can handle it all too!
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Kinda messed up.
I used to think you were OK Blue Ox.
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???





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Wrong. Dave Hill said they would NEVER build a convertible ZO6 because the aluminum frame wouldn't be stiff enough without the roof. He NEVER said ANYTHING about putting the 427 in a steel frame convertible.

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Originally Posted by 427 C5
Kinda messed up.
I used to think you were OK Blue Ox.
OIC. Hey, you started it!

Ultimately, what GM learned is open to interpretation. Maybe they learned to wait till you really need a sales boost at the very end of the generation. Or maybe they learned how to get rid of a bunch of LS7's they couldn't get rid of by selling them the only way people seemed to want to buy them. I don't know...

I hope the OP knows that I fully agree with his point and yet the vastly improved hi-po vert seems just a little more pointless without track-approved anti-roll capabilities.

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Wrong. Dave Hill said they would NEVER build a convertible ZO6 because the aluminum frame wouldn't be stiff enough without the roof. He NEVER said ANYTHING about putting the 427 in a steel frame convertible.

Jimmy
I talked to Dave Hill and 2 other corvette engineers at the ZO6 unveiling. They told me this to MY face.
Then, I told them all Lingenfelter was making more than 700hp with no problems in C5 convertibles, so I knew what they were saying that wasn't true and was probably an effort to sell more cars and not canabalize sales.

So, don't YOU tell ME what was said to MY face.

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Originally Posted by 427 C5
Wait, don't you remember, the "Corvette Team" told us the C6 Convertible couldn't "handle" a 427 and they never lie to us, right ???



Its funny they tell you they have to "weaken" the frame rails because they were too strong when they first started doing the extruded rails. Right hand doesnt know what the left is doing.
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How did all the 427 corvette buyers get past the ongoing rumor the 427 engines valves etc?

(sarcasm)
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
I talked to Dave Hill and 2 other corvette engineers at the ZO6 unveiling. They told me this to MY face.
So, don't YOU tell ME what I heard.
Sorry man, gotta prove it.

Y'know, this could be a similar situation I used to have with my kids. Sometimes it was just a hell of a lot easier to tell them a fib to get rid of them when they wouldn't STFU.
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Originally Posted by SD1
Its funny they tell you they have to "weaken" the frame rails because they were too strong when they first started doing the extruded rails. Right hand doesnt know what the left is doing.
Do you know a guy who goes by petermj? I ask because you and he sound of like mind.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Well, we get to hear from our two fav 'auto trannies'...

That said, I would suspect that the new aluminum frame structure was designed to handle it all for the C7 gen.

I also suspect that the new auto tranny can handle it all too!
You look pretty cute all dressed up. Who's the other fruit cake with you?
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Sorry man, gotta prove it.

Y'know, this could be a similar situation I used to have with my kids. Sometimes it was just a hell of a lot easier to tell them a fib to get rid of them when they wouldn't STFU.
In order to give you what you want, I'd have to identify myself.
I'm not willing to to that.
Same reason I don't have a facebook or use my name on here.

What I posted is true, whether you believe it or not.
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You look pretty cute all dressed up. Who's the other fruit cake with you?
Sammy and 427 of course. I'm evidently one of the male cheerleaders.

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In order to give you what you want, I'd have to identify myself.
I'm not willing to to that.
Same reason I don't have a facebook or use my name on here.

What I posted is true, whether you believe it or not.
True or not, it's more than 6 years ago and maybe you should get over it...like the absence of AWD and DCT. Move on. Deal with it. Just breath.
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I do recall many parents just saying something made up to get rid of pesky kids. Hmmmm, might work here....might already have been at work in the past. Government calls it disinformation. Parents call it...oh well, this is a family site. I got some on ignore so have no idea what is being said; just out of the blue stuff.
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
I talked to Dave Hill and 2 other corvette engineers at the ZO6 unveiling. They told me this to MY face.
Then, I told them all Lingenfelter was making more than 700hp with no problems in C5 convertibles, so I knew what they were saying that wasn't true and was probably an effort to sell more cars and not canabalize sales.

So, don't YOU tell ME what was said to MY face.
You asked Dave Hill, at the Z06 launch, if they would put the 427 in the STEEL frame Corvette convertible and he said no?
Why would you ask that in 2005 at the Z06 intro? That makes no sense.
If that's the question you asked, then I will have to take your word for it.

I seem to recall a video years ago where Dave was asked if they would make a ZO6 convertible and he replied NO for the reason I listed (aluminum frame).

Jimmy

PS. For the sake of your standing on this forum, let's say Dave Hill DID tell you that they would NOT put a 427 in a STEEL frame convertible, Dave Hill was LONG GONE when the 427 Convertible happened, he had absolutely NOTHING to do with that car.

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