racerns

So the offical 1/4 time from GM is 12.0@119mph. It is a given that 11s will be easy to obtain, but how close can it get to the 10s. I am not talking about on a regular basis. I am talking about those record runs with a great driver at a great track in great weather. History seems to say that an improvement of .6 to .7 sec over the factory claim is possible when the conditions and driver are right. So a 11.4 or high 11.3X may be possible?

The next question is will a drag radial only C7 (2014) break into the 10s? History says is will be pretty close.

OnPoint

Question 1: Yes, 11.4 in best conditions, top shoe pilot.

Question 2: I don't think it will make it.

Snorman

Not very close IMO.
There is too much left to learn for a definitive answer. However, I would guess an average driver in a Z06 will have their hands very full with a A6 C7.
S.

jschindler

I don't see it. The very fastest bone stock C6 on the forum was really an outlier to the point that many people didn't believe it. I can see someone under perfect conditions and a hell of a driver hitting maybe 11.6 or so, but anything below that I just don't see. The faster a car is the harder it is to launch on a rwd car and OEM tires.

I don't follow how fast drag radials pick up, so I'll leave that one to others to guess at.

racerns

I tend to agree, it would take a low 1.5X 60' time to even have a chance.

MudZ06

Where did GM say it was a flat 12?

Snorman

With a 119 mph trap speed, I would guess even on a decent 60' time that's pretty damn accurate.
S.

racerns

11.6 so only a .4 sec improvement over the factory spec. The reason I think it will be a little better is because what we have seen from the other C6 records:

ZR1 10.66 vs 11.3 (factory)
Z06 10.98 vs 11.7 (factory)
Ls3 11.71 vs 12.4? (factory)

The ZR1 and Z06 drag radial only records are a 1 sec improvement over the factory spec.

TA

Considering the trap speed it had to be somewhere in that neighborhood. Hell, my car runs 11.80s at 112

Beach Bum

If an Auto is capable of hitting 119 mph in their test, then in good air its capable of 122-123 mph. Good for mid 11's with a stock torque converter.

I predict with nothing more than a loose torque converter and sticky tires, some just might tickle the very high 10's in good air on an east coast track.

theseal

It'll run like a c5 z, with less 60' potential (less tire more wgt). Assuming gears 1-4 are the same as the c5z gears.

I think the c5z stock record is 11.55 or so. 11.6 is probably possible IF the electronics allow it.

road pilot

12 seconds to 10 seconds. So easy only 2 seconds. I wonder
how many of you have actually been to a 1/4 mile track and ran.
10 second times in the high 120's to low 130 mph will take alot
of power, more than the C-7 has stock. We are talking stock
right?? It could and maybe... high 11's on a good day (or night).
I run high 10's with 725 hp and 123 mph. I am holding back so
that I don'r move into a bracket where you need a full cage and
chute.

jdhommert

So so far we've been able to get a good .65 better than GM specs

I'll say 11.35 or so

Snorman

Huh?
If the C7 runs ~12.0's, how is it 2-seconds? And you don't need "high 12-'s to low 130 mph" to run 10's. If the car hooks well (1.8's or better), it should do it with ~127-128 in a manual car and probably less in A6.
S.

crabman

What I'm curious about is why some of you seem to be taking for granted that the 12 flat GM run is crap which will be easily bested by every Tom, Dick and Harry? I've no idea if it is or isn't but taking it for granted seems a little premature. A lot of people bragged with C6 about being able to best the GM time but in the beginning few could actually produce proof of such times. It was fairly rare air you were breathing here with C6 for quite a while if you were one of the few that did match their times and could prove it. Jim I think can attest to this since he was one of the few that did early on and he will remember.

I don't believe what a pro can do and what most of us can do can be fairly considered the same thing. I don't really care which anyone quotes so long as the times are qualified insofar as what they are, ie this is a what a skilled driver can do, this is what the rest of us dumbasses are likely to come up with. This begs the question as to which way it goes with this 12 flat?

Z51 6spd

Back in late 2007 I bought a brand new 2008 LS3 vette with Z51,NPP, 2Lt, and Auto. I bought a set of long tubes and had it dyno tuned by Ed Wright of fast chips. Took the car to the Memphis Motorsports Park before it had a 1000 miles on ran three passes that night. All passes were 11.70 to 11.72.Easiest car to drag race ever. All you did was floor it as fast as you could, it would dead hook and was like riding a caddilac all the way through. Guess what, it trapped 119 to 120 mph every time. 60 ft was in the 1.8s.

I guess what I'm trying to convey is my car back in 08 was very similar to the current C7 as far as power. Both cars would trap just about the same. The big difference is how the C7 will deliver its torque. Torque is what propels you through the 60ft. The better the 60ft the faster 1/4 mile time. Just cutting a 1.70 60ft in C7 could equate to 11.60s no problem in good air in my opinion. Whoever cuts the best 60ft in the C7 in good air will run the best time in a drag race.

M_C7

Look I love the C7 ive got one already with a TPW and I cant wait to run it at the strip as I do a lot of drag racing.

But please anyone who thinks its getting close to a 10 sec run is delusional in the highest sense. Ive got a 2012 GTR bone stock just with a midpipe. I know about trying to run 10's and what it takes to get there...my goal was always to run 10.9s with no tune or anything and I did it and then some!... but damn it took 1.57-1.62 60fts 4.5 sec flat 330's and 6.9@over 102mph 1/8th miles to get there consistently over and over. The C7 wont even be in the same ballpark as that. Im well aware of the unicorn Z06 runs and how they compare to the average guy you see at the track with one but its just not feasible I dont care who is driving and where.

Im saying we will see 11.6 maybe on a glory track in good DA.. If I just run a 11.9 in it im good





I also recently had nicely modded C6 with about 580hp plus knocking off a 7.3@100 at the 1/8 against me thats still not good enough for a 10sec run.... enjoy the C7 for what it is, I know I will

SCM_Crash

You're simply not going to shave 2 seconds with a drag radial when you're getting beyond 12 second runs. Maybe if the car originally ran 14's and could benefit from hard launches.

But if the car is already getting out of the hole with 1.9 and 1.8 60fts, I really doubt a drag radial is going to help much. Especially if you're talking about the Z51 with the stickier tires.

jschindler

racerns

Where are you getting 2 sec? If the factory time is 12.0 then you would need an improvement of 1.01 sec to be in the "10s". I never said 10.0 and was also really asking how close to the 10s would it get. By the way I have taken a completely stock car (tires and all) into the 10s.

Never said the 12.0 is crap, but there is a history of being able to beat the GM published times. The factory time that GM puts out is not the best time they achieve in testing. It is more of an average of what they think it is capable of. My question was not what the average Joe is going to be running but what are the best time in optimum conditions going to be.

With the torque of the LT1 I expect the C7 to be able to cut 1.6X 60'times on drag radials.