C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

C7Z06 & C7.R will be unveiled together at upcoming Auto Show

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-06-2013, 11:05 PM
  #1  
Daekwan06
Safety Car
Thread Starter
 
Daekwan06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2011
Location: Arlington VA
Posts: 4,210
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts

Default C7Z06 & C7.R will be unveiled together at upcoming Auto Show

http://jalopnik.com/a-reliable-sourc...-rac-689614789

A reliable source at Lime Rock Park during the ALMS race today informed us that the next Z06 Corvette and C7.R race car will be unveiled together at an upcoming auto show. Our guess? Detroit.




Guessing which one seems like the real question.
Old 07-06-2013, 11:17 PM
  #2  
Joe_Planet
Safety Car
 
Joe_Planet's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 4,451
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I'm going to guess starting msrp @ 85
Old 07-06-2013, 11:33 PM
  #3  
keagan
Melting Slicks
 
keagan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,292
Received 880 Likes on 450 Posts

Default

I wish we knew more about this car already. The wait for the next unveil will b painful.
Old 07-06-2013, 11:37 PM
  #4  
Kappa
Melting Slicks
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,826
Received 530 Likes on 234 Posts

Default



Interesting. Very interesting. Hopefully they have something good in store. Judging by the Z51's performance, I think they will. Maybe it'll shutup the C6Z owners too.
Old 07-06-2013, 11:53 PM
  #5  
Mike Mercury
Team Owner
 
Mike Mercury's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2001
Location: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
Posts: 54,199
Received 173 Likes on 107 Posts

Default




Guessing which one seems like the real question.
If it follows the C6... It was unveiled at the 2004Naias. And the z06 exactly one year later... The 2005 naias.
Old 07-06-2013, 11:55 PM
  #6  
wfoZ06
Melting Slicks
 
wfoZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Location: Screw you, we're from Texas
Posts: 2,332
Received 478 Likes on 209 Posts

Default

After viewing the C6.R at Le Mans two weeks ago, I can attest we need the C7.R. The Ferraris and Aston Martins were killing us.
Attached Images  
Old 07-07-2013, 12:00 AM
  #7  
jdmvette
Night Owl for life
Support Corvetteforum!
 
jdmvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2003
Location: Bugs Bunny should'a made a left turn here
Posts: 23,200
Received 3,247 Likes on 1,668 Posts

Default

^ do they still put restrictions on the c6r to make the others more competitive?
Old 07-07-2013, 12:26 AM
  #8  
AVETTE
Melting Slicks
 
AVETTE's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Apex NC
Posts: 2,837
Received 689 Likes on 275 Posts
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran

Default Same info I got "off the record" at the Bash

I was told at the Bash by the power train GM reps and Michelin tire reps "off the record" that IF all stays on schedule "a high performance" model would be unveiled in Detroit in Jan of 2014 and on sale in fall of 2014.

My questions to them, How much HP? "no comment" will it be a Z06 type or ZR1 type "no comment" HOW much will it cost "no comment", will it even be called Z06 or ZR1 "no comment" will there be a wide body version,

GM guys "no comment" Michelin guys, I can tell you the tire that has been approved is over 300 wide and WILL NOT fit on the standard Stingray, so what do you think?"

Looking forward to Jan. to see what they cooked up, personally I think it will be supercharged but I would prefer naturally aspirated but I think govt fuel economy regulations are killing that route We will see soon enough
Old 07-07-2013, 12:35 AM
  #9  
Kappa
Melting Slicks
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,826
Received 530 Likes on 234 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jdmvette
^ do they still put restrictions on the c6r to make the others more competitive?
I'm pretty sure the C6R had a pretty significant weight penalty this year if I remember right.
Old 07-07-2013, 12:57 AM
  #10  
Roidz
Pro
 
Roidz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2011
Location: Farr West UT
Posts: 515
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I can hardly wait
Old 07-07-2013, 01:48 AM
  #11  
Lavender
Melting Slicks
 
Lavender's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,732
Received 320 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wfoZ06
After viewing the C6.R at Le Mans two weeks ago, I can attest we need the C7.R. The Ferraris and Aston Martins were killing us.
That race was rigged in favor of European teams...that's why you guys lost.
Old 07-07-2013, 03:17 AM
  #12  
Blancpain
Pro
 
Blancpain's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2007
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by wfoZ06
After viewing the C6.R at Le Mans two weeks ago, I can attest we need the C7.R. The Ferraris and Aston Martins were killing us.
Old 07-07-2013, 03:30 AM
  #13  
kokoa87
Instructor
 
kokoa87's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2012
Location: dallas tx
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AVETTE
I was told at the Bash by the power train GM reps and Michelin tire reps "off the record" that IF all stays on schedule "a high performance" model would be unveiled in Detroit in Jan of 2014 and on sale in fall of 2014.

My questions to them, How much HP? "no comment" will it be a Z06 type or ZR1 type "no comment" HOW much will it cost "no comment", will it even be called Z06 or ZR1 "no comment" will there be a wide body version,

GM guys "no comment" Michelin guys, I can tell you the tire that has been approved is over 300 wide and WILL NOT fit on the standard Stingray, so what do you think?"

Looking forward to Jan. to see what they cooked up, personally I think it will be supercharged but I would prefer naturally aspirated but I think govt fuel economy regulations are killing that route We will see soon enough

Well I sure hope so !!!!

So the tire guys said specifically over 300 size and won't fit

Standard stingray ??
Old 07-07-2013, 03:50 AM
  #14  
jr3
Safety Car
 
jr3's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2009
Location: Area Z51
Posts: 3,906
Received 60 Likes on 39 Posts

Default

A little birdie mentioned this a few weeks ago.








Last edited by jr3; 07-07-2013 at 03:58 AM.
Old 07-07-2013, 03:51 AM
  #15  
Stingray23
Le Mans Master
 
Stingray23's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 8,592
Received 603 Likes on 223 Posts

Default

Old 07-07-2013, 03:51 AM
  #16  
jdmvette
Night Owl for life
Support Corvetteforum!
 
jdmvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2003
Location: Bugs Bunny should'a made a left turn here
Posts: 23,200
Received 3,247 Likes on 1,668 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Kappa
I'm pretty sure the C6R had a pretty significant weight penalty this year if I remember right.
yeah i thought they had to put more restrictions/penalties on the vette so the other cars had a chance.
Old 07-07-2013, 04:22 AM
  #17  
dcbingaman
Burning Brakes
 
dcbingaman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: St. Louis MO
Posts: 1,193
Received 342 Likes on 207 Posts
Default The Big Z - one or two ?

Do you think GM will still build two C7 Z- models ? The ZR-1 came after the Z06 with better performance in the C6. If GM could build a supercharged LT1 model for $85K, won't that make the 427 redundant ? Would a direct injected 427 be called an LT4 ??

Will they use the same supercharger set-up in the ZL-1 and the new CTS-V ? Will they use an Eaton or a Whipple blower this time ?

Get notified of new replies

To C7Z06 & C7.R will be unveiled together at upcoming Auto Show

Old 07-07-2013, 05:16 AM
  #18  
SCM_Crash
Le Mans Master
 
SCM_Crash's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2009
Location: Los Angeles California
Posts: 9,526
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Joe_Planet
I'm going to guess starting msrp @ 85
That would be interesting... I personally don't care about having the Zxx model. But if it's 85K, that would put it in my price range by the time they're available. Makes me wonder if I should lease the first year and buy a Zxx model after the lease is up.

I don't think I'd ever use all that power though.
Old 07-07-2013, 08:16 AM
  #19  
burtonbl103
Team Owner
 
burtonbl103's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: Boston MA
Posts: 38,571
Received 595 Likes on 176 Posts
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08 & '12-'13

Default

Nope complete Bs I was at limerock and Harland said it would be awile and they want to see a bunch of C7s first.
Old 07-07-2013, 08:52 AM
  #20  
Daekwan06
Safety Car
Thread Starter
 
Daekwan06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2011
Location: Arlington VA
Posts: 4,210
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by dcbingaman
Do you think GM will still build two C7 Z- models ? The ZR-1 came after the Z06 with better performance in the C6. If GM could build a supercharged LT1 model for $85K, won't that make the 427 redundant ? Would a direct injected 427 be called an LT4 ??

Will they use the same supercharger set-up in the ZL-1 and the new CTS-V ? Will they use an Eaton or a Whipple blower this time ?
I dont think you will see the 427 again next gen. It doesn't make sense. The TOP performing vehicle you can currently buy from GM is powered by a supercharged 6.2L V8. Not only is supercharging more effective at creating power, its also more reliable & cheaper for the company as a whole.

I say more reliable, because even on the stock bottom end the LS3 can handle 150k miles of trouble free driving as proven by the Callaway 606 Grand Sport. And those miles have came from abusive situations than the average Vette owner would do.. things like: customer test drives, dragstrip & road-racing visits, coast-to-coast driving.

I say cheaper because GM doesn't have to R&D, manufacture and warranty a separate 427 engine that will have an extremely limited application. From 2006 to 2012, the LS7 was only used in one specific model. 2013 was the first year it was available in two different models (Z06 & 427 Vert), but in reality they were same vehicle. In 2014, the LS7 will finally be used in another vehicle (Z28 Camaro) but its application will be limited to around 500 sold.

In the long run, it just makes more sense for GM to drop the 427 platform.. and continue investing into LT1 and supercharged LT4 platform. These engines, and variances of them, can be used in several vehicles (Corvette, Camaro, Cadillac, Trucks, SUVs, etc).. in addition to being cheaper to manufacture, install and provide warranty coverage.


Quick Reply: C7Z06 & C7.R will be unveiled together at upcoming Auto Show



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:10 AM.