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Old 09-18-2013, 10:52 AM
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On the 2013 911 with PDK the transmission shifts to neutral coming to a slow stop when both the left and right paddles are pulled up [towards you] at the same time. Does anyone know if the C7 auto works the same way?
Old 09-18-2013, 11:13 AM
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No.

There's no reason to shift to N, it's a slushbox, not a DCT.
Old 09-18-2013, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sebljo
On the 2013 911 with PDK the transmission shifts to neutral coming to a slow stop when both the left and right paddles are pulled up [towards you] at the same time. Does anyone know if the C7 auto works the same way?
No, it won't.
Old 09-18-2013, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RicK T
No.

There's no reason to shift to N, it's a slushbox, not a DCT.
There is supposed to be and most members here have commented on how much better and responsive the A6 / w paddles are in the Grand Sport.
There was a software fix and upgrade that they issued for the later model but have not offered it to those of us with older A6 models.

So the C7 will benefit from this new software version upgrade, and the paddle shifts should be considerably more responsive and precise.

But a DCT/PDK it is not.
Old 09-19-2013, 11:29 AM
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The paddles on the steering wheel can be used to manually upshift or
downshift the transmission. The right (+) plus paddle upshifts, and the left (−) minus paddle downshifts.
The Manual Paddle Shift system can be deactivated by moving the
shift lever from M (Manual Mode) back to D (Drive).
M (Manual Mode): In
M (Manual Mode), the transmission can be shifted like a manual transmission using the paddle shift controls. See Manual Mode on page 9-28.
Manual Mode Manual Paddle Shift
When the shift lever is in D (Drive),
press either the right (+) plus paddle or the left (−) minus paddle to place the transmission in Manual Paddle Shift mode. The gear indicator by
the shift lever, in the cluster, and in the HUD will display an M, even though the shift lever is still in
D (Drive). To exit the system, hold
the (+) plus paddle for more than one second. The system will return to automatic shifting after 6 seconds
of cruising at a steady speed, no manual shifts, no aggressive cornering, or when the vehicle comes to a stop.

When using the Manual Paddle Shift feature while in M (Manual Mode), the current gear will be
displayed in the instrument cluster, or the Head-Up Display (HUD),
if equipped. See Head-Up Display
(HUD) on page 5-25.

When the shift lever is moved to
M (Manual Mode), the transmission enters Manual Mode. The transmission will hold the current
gear until a change is requested.
When accelerating the vehicle from a stop in snowy and icy conditions, shifting to 2 (Second) or 3 (Third)
gear allows the vehicle to gain more traction.
While the Manual Paddle Shift gear selection system is active, the transmission will automatically downshift through the gears as the
vehicle slows. The transmission will select 2 (Second) gear as the vehicle stops. From a stop, the vehicle will start from and hold
2 (Second) gear unless the manual paddle shifts are used to shift into a
different gear, or D (Drive) is selected. The driver can select 1 (First) gear for maximum
acceleration from a stop.
The vehicle speeds required for Manual Paddle Shift upshifts
depend on several vehicle inputs, which will vary the allowed up-shift speed by a few km/h (mph).
To prevent damage to the powertrain, Manual Paddle
downshifts to a lower gear cannot be done above certain speeds. The maximum speed allowed for
downshifting of gears 1 (First) through 4 (Fourth) are:
For vehicles with a 2.56:1 Axle Ratio (RPO GM8 without Z51)
The Manual Paddle Shift system will not allow either an upshift or a downshift if the vehicle speed is too
fast or too slow, nor will it allow a start from 4 (Fourth) or higher gear.
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Upshifts to 4 (Fourth) gear require approximately 35 km/h (22 mph).
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Upshifts to 5 (Fifth) gear require approximately 45 km/h (28 mph). .
Into 4 (Fourth) gear over 250 km/h (155 mph).
Into 3 (Third) gear over 188 km/h (117 mph).
Into 2 (Second) gear over 120 km/h (75 mph).
Into 1 (First) gear over 68 km/h (42 mph).
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If upshifting does not occur when needed, vehicle speed will be
limited to protect the engine.
Upshifts to 6 (Sixth) gear require approximately 65 km/h (41 mph).
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When a requested shift is denied due to the speed restrictions shown,
a DIC message will be displayed, and the current gear remains displayed in the cluster and HUD.
For vehicles with a 2.73:1 Axle Ratio (RPO GU2 with Z51)
Upshifts to 4 (Fourth) gear require approximately 31 km/h (19 mph).
Upshifts to 5 (Fifth) gear require approximately 39 km/h (24 mph).
Upshifts to 6 (Sixth) gear require approximately 57 km/h (35 mph).
Manual Paddle Shift operation is
available for use with cruise control. See Cruise Control on page 9-46.
Old 09-19-2013, 11:40 AM
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I've been in some cars that if you use the paddles to say put it in 3rd, and you start from a stop, the tranny will shift 1 to 3, then stay at 3.

In other words, shifting is still automatic but will only go up to the gear you haved paddles to. So it really isn't manual shifting. You have no choice if you want to stay in 3.

Is this true for the A6 in manual mode. If you paddle to 3, does it stay in 3.
Old 09-19-2013, 11:49 AM
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^ Hmmm. Not crazy about the auto downshifting automatically - it should only do that when it's necessary to prevent stumble. On the good news side, it sounds like it will do a soft rev limit hold without upshifting automatically.
Old 09-19-2013, 12:38 PM
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In my 2011 A6, when in S(Sport) mode, when you put it in 3rd gear it stays in 3rd gear all the way to the stop and then accelerating away from that stop. It will stay in 3rd gear and the car's speed will be limited ONLY by the rpm limiter. THESE THINGS ARE AMAZING. If tracking you can become very precise at allowing for whatever the millisecond "delay" there is between the command to upshift/downshift and the execution of the command. The ONLY thing NOT ENGAGED in the overall endeavor is your left foot unless and until you want to incorporate power braking/cornering.
Old 09-19-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stevelischynsky
I've been in some cars that if you use the paddles to say put it in 3rd, and you start from a stop, the tranny will shift 1 to 3, then stay at 3.

In other words, shifting is still automatic but will only go up to the gear you haved paddles to. So it really isn't manual shifting. You have no choice if you want to stay in 3.

Is this true for the A6 in manual mode. If you paddle to 3, does it stay in 3.
That sounds like a traditional auto with no paddles that has R N 1 2 3 D on the shifter, and selecting a number will lock out gears above. GM's paddle shift transmissions are not like this, the transmission will hold gears until you upshift, even if it means bouncing on the Rev limiter.

Read through the very informative post by 2AG above, it describes both manual and auto modes.
Old 09-19-2013, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
In my 2011 A6, when in S(Sport) mode, when you put it in 3rd gear it stays in 3rd gear all the way to the stop and then accelerating away from that stop. It will stay in 3rd gear and the car's speed will be limited ONLY by the rpm limiter. THESE THINGS ARE AMAZING. If tracking you can become very precise at allowing for whatever the millisecond "delay" there is between the command to upshift/downshift and the execution of the command. The ONLY thing NOT ENGAGED in the overall endeavor is your left foot unless and until you want to incorporate power braking/cornering.
Hell no, why 07 does not do that at all. In third come to a stop downshift into second automatically. Stays in second accelerating from the stop.

So is this another upgrade change on the A6 software that has not been offered to earlier models?
Old 09-19-2013, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewelle
Hell no, why 07 does not do that at all. In third come to a stop downshift into second automatically. Stays in second accelerating from the stop.

So is this another upgrade change on the A6 software that has not been offered to earlier models?
Apparently a change if the '07 does differently. I know you believe Chevy should offer the software upgrade, but do any aftermarket tranny tuners offer it?

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