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Old 08-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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Default So it is still actually a 5 speed, not 7!

I'm sure this has been posted / discussed, I couldn't quickly find it..

Have you seen the gear ratios? It is still a 5 speed gearbox!

C6 Z51:
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1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57

C7 Z51:
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1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57
7th: 0.48

How silly is that? The spacing between the gears still increases as you go up the gears which isn't very race oriented.

But why add ANOTHER super tall eco gear? It is great to have one of these gears, but why another?

Make no mistake, the C7 is just another 5 speed Vette! :-)
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Actually 7 gears to choose from. Not 5.

Guess facts like that elude you in your desire to make a derogatory comment.

30 mpg on the highway with Eco modes dam impressive for those long trips that even 190 mph sports cars make in every usage.

Yes five forward gears are more for performance yet its the duality of purpose as both a track car and a daily driver that corvette is known for.

Under 60 large and this new vettes insanely fun to drive ...according to recent reviews...

Can't wait for owners reviews to start hitting the net either..
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Originally Posted by niels007
I'm sure this has been posted / discussed, I couldn't quickly find it..

Have you seen the gear ratios? It is still a 5 speed gearbox!

C6 Z51:
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1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57

C7 Z51:
=======
1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57
7th: 0.48

How silly is that? The spacing between the gears still increases as you go up the gears which isn't very race oriented.

But why add ANOTHER super tall eco gear? It is great to have one of these gears, but why another?

Make no mistake, the C7 is just another 5 speed Vette! :-)
Not as silly as your post.
Old 08-16-2013, 09:24 AM
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I definitely agree with the OP (not about it being a 5-speed, lol)....I would've hoped for revised gearing to better take advantage of 7 gears rather than just try for a bit better fuel economy.
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Amazing car, amazing value, absolutely. But on a track day, the gears you're using are the same as the C6. The Z51 gears are great off the line but as the gaps grow between the gears, not so great on the track.

I'm all for an eco top gear, but I don't see the need for two. A more tightly spaced 6 'performance gears' with one eco 7th is honestly the only thing I would've expected when they announced the 7 speed.
A lot of the performance and styling is now far more modern, but the gears will still feel a bit sluggish compared to a more tightly spaced set of ratios you will find on some competing cars.

The tread title is obviously a childish way to get attention
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Probably won't get to use that 7th gear all that much but it is still there nonetheless. If it wasn't for the ever increasing federal fuel economy demands on new cars the C7 would probably only have 6 gears.
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The fact the car has more torque at 1000 rpms than a Porsche 911 has at peak level surely makes the new 7 speed more usable then the highly regarded German brand...

I do agree the title of this thread is a bit childish but on the interweb that's often expected these days..
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
The fact the car has more torque at 1000 rpms than a Porsche 911 has at peak level surely makes the new 7 speed more usable then the highly regarded German brand...
This thread has nothing to do with Porsche.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...craziness.html
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
Actually 7 gears to choose from. Not 5.

Guess facts like that elude you in your desire to make a derogatory comment.

30 mpg on the highway with Eco modes dam impressive for those long trips that even 190 mph sports cars make in every usage.

Yes five forward gears are more for performance yet its the duality of purpose as both a track car and a daily driver that corvette is known for.


Under 60 large and this new vettes insanely fun to drive ...according to recent reviews...

Can't wait for owners reviews to start hitting the net either..
Imagine that, you just might be better off taking your Corvette on that long distance business trip because it will get better mileage than the Camry! Don't see anything wrong with that, thank you gear number seven!
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The 7th gear probably saved us all the gas guzzler tax.
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Originally Posted by khoeysr
The 7th gear probably saved us all the gas guzzler tax.


CAFE standards be dammed!
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The OP has too much time on his hands!! Give me the fuel economy anytime on those road trips!!
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Originally Posted by niels007
I'm sure this has been posted / discussed, I couldn't quickly find it..

Have you seen the gear ratios? It is still a 5 speed gearbox!

C6 Z51:
=======
1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57

C7 Z51:
=======
1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th: 1
5th: 0.71
6th: 0.57
7th: 0.48

How silly is that? The spacing between the gears still increases as you go up the gears which isn't very race oriented.

But why add ANOTHER super tall eco gear? It is great to have one of these gears, but why another?

Make no mistake, the C7 is just another 5 speed Vette! :-)
The reason for the last taller gear is for fuel economy.

Here's the deal that most hear will not admit. If the Vette damages GM's fleet fuel mileage average, it will be history or unrecognizable from what it has been in the past.

It's forced to have an average fleet economy by law. With so much of it's product line being trucks and SUV's, it cannot have a low volume sports car messing with everyone else's numbers.

This is the reason for the extra gear and cylinder de-activation.
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Originally Posted by Periokid
This thread has nothing to do with Porsche.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...craziness.html
I think they both have seven speed manuals....and I believe the LT1 makes more torque at 1000 rpms than the 911 does at peak.

With a seven speed gearbox...I would think the torque rating at 1000 rpms might lend insight as to how appropriate the seven speed gearbox might in fact be.

I think the advantages of dropping revs with a seven speed along with active sound management could make the c7 an even more impressive daily driver or grand tourer than our already impressive c6..

For those who love Porsches...my comparison was not meant as a slam to the brand so pull your undies out of your crack and relax..
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Originally Posted by niels007
The spacing between the gears still increases as you go up the gears which isn't very race oriented.

But why add ANOTHER super tall eco gear?
you're caught up in a cult; therefore you are not allowed to see why this had to be done:

















because of this dolt, and the idiots that fear to say "the King has no clothes"... we have this nonsense.
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I guess I'd ask the original poster IF he ever tracks his car? If so he'd know that with the torque the car has........the gearing is not the critical.

I've concluded that folks that keep hammering this car.........either are jealous and or can't afford one or perhaps never had a Vette.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
you're caught up in a cult; therefore you are not allowed to see why this had to be done:
















because of this dolt, and the idiots that fear to say "the King has no clothes"... we have this nonsense.
How true Mike. (insert your ringing bell here) Everyone and I mean everyone, even those who are to busy, need to use their vote to turn the tide of this nonsense. Vote the bastards out! The 2nd overdrive is doing it's part to meet the government MPG standards for GM. Something has to off set all those Silverados.

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Originally Posted by Greg00Coupe
I guess I'd ask the original poster IF he ever tracks his car? If so he'd know that with the torque the car has........the gearing is not the critical.

I've concluded that folks that keep hammering this car.........either are jealous and or can't afford one or perhaps never had a Vette.
Bingo. I used to race Formula Fords, and with their puny horsepower and close gear ratios, you were constantly rowing up and down all 4 gears. But with the gobs of torque in my C6, 3rd and 4th are all that's ever used on track days. As has been mentioned, the tall, tall 6th and 7th gear are just for loafing along on the freeway. I get better highway mileage in my Vette than I do with my GTI. Cool!
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I don't think anyone is against a fuel saving top gear.

Is the law so weird that you need a super tall 6th AND 7th gear? Again, completely understand a super tall 7th, but why not spread out the first 6 for performance.

Claims that it is for fuel economy are valid but you'd only need one super tall ratio for fuel efficient highway cruising just like the previous 6 gear C6 used..
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Originally Posted by niels007
I don't think anyone is against a fuel saving top gear.

Is the law so weird that you need a super tall 6th AND 7th gear? Again, completely understand a super tall 7th, but why not spread out the first 6 for performance.

Claims that it is for fuel economy are valid but you'd only need one super tall ratio for fuel efficient highway cruising just like the previous 6 gear C6 used..
Good point.


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