Corvette Victory Against a Better Car
09-09-2013, 11:01 PM
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Corvette Victory Against a Better Car
Firstly, my credentials: I expect mid-October delivery here in the Cayman Islands of my Z51 coupe (Laguna Blue/Brownstone) 7-speed, 3LT with magnetic ride, performance exhaust, visible carbon fibre roof, etc. This is a pilot production car already shipped to Panama to be on display at the country’s most important annual motor show, to be shipped to Grand Cayman when the show is over as undoubtedly the very first C7 to be delivered to a retail customer anywhere outside the USA.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
09-09-2013, 11:04 PM
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Firstly, my credentials: I expect mid-October delivery here in the Cayman Islands of my Z51 coupe (Laguna Blue/Brownstone) 7-speed, 3LT with magnetic ride, performance exhaust, visible carbon fibre roof, etc. This is a pilot production car already shipped to Panama to be on display at the country’s most important annual motor show, to be shipped to Grand Cayman when the show is over as undoubtedly the very first C7 to be delivered to a retail customer anywhere outside the USA.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
09-10-2013, 12:20 AM
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09-10-2013, 12:54 AM
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My opinion: if you want a Porsche, buy a Porsche. A Vette should be at heart -- a Vette.
09-10-2013, 01:16 AM
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Firstly, my credentials: I expect mid-October delivery here in the Cayman Islands of my Z51 coupe (Laguna Blue/Brownstone) 7-speed, 3LT with magnetic ride, performance exhaust, visible carbon fibre roof, etc. This is a pilot production car already shipped to Panama to be on display at the country’s most important annual motor show, to be shipped to Grand Cayman when the show is over as undoubtedly the very first C7 to be delivered to a retail customer anywhere outside the USA.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
09-10-2013, 02:27 AM
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Especially a Porsche that costs twice as much as the 'vette? And they call the "back seats" in the Porsche a plus??? If you're older than about five, you aren't fitting in there. Fold 'em down, and use the space for storage, because there's nowhere else to put your luggage if you want to take a weekend trip. I know - I owned one.
09-10-2013, 02:44 AM
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Very well said OP, I fully agree. The Porsche is the better car, yet I'm a bigger fan of the corvette. It's the underdog with the sweet v8 motor, removable roof and great comfort/mpg to boot. I'm confident that this is the car that will reinvent gm and make them a major player. Congratulations, can't wait to hear your review once you've had some seat time.
09-10-2013, 02:52 AM
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First, to the OP, well written post. So the rest, just curious. I've been to Grand Cayman's three times. Not from a cruise ship. Over on the North side of the Island for a week or two each time. By the bay. So, I thought I had driven about every road there is to drive. Nice coastal roads, but with the low speed limits, how do you "work out" a sports car?
The Island is only 22 miles long. With any modern sports car, if you had a straight road, you could cover the whole thing in minutes!
Again, not being offensive. Just curious. When I was there, I thought about a high performance car. Just didn't see places to enjoy one.
The Caymans are beautiful, and envy you live there. On my bucket list to get back there a few more times.
The Island is only 22 miles long. With any modern sports car, if you had a straight road, you could cover the whole thing in minutes!
Again, not being offensive. Just curious. When I was there, I thought about a high performance car. Just didn't see places to enjoy one.
The Caymans are beautiful, and envy you live there. On my bucket list to get back there a few more times.
09-10-2013, 03:05 AM
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Especially a Porsche that costs twice as much as the 'vette? And they call the "back seats" in the Porsche a plus??? If you're older than about five, you aren't fitting in there. Fold 'em down, and use the space for storage, because there's nowhere else to put your luggage if you want to take a weekend trip. I know - I owned one.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rsche_911_c4s/
Porsche also has integrated roof rack systems for those who demand more carrying capacity:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...e_roof_box.jpg
Even for convertibles.
http://cdn.gollos.com/files/9128/porsche-kayak.jpg
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One shouldn't rely on the back seat space in a Porsche for much of anything . There is a frunk, though. It does limit what you can buy at Costco or Home Depot. That's what the SUV is for.
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09-10-2013, 07:14 AM
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Firstly, my credentials: I expect mid-October delivery here in the Cayman Islands of my Z51 coupe (Laguna Blue/Brownstone) 7-speed, 3LT with magnetic ride, performance exhaust, visible carbon fibre roof, etc. This is a pilot production car already shipped to Panama to be on display at the country’s most important annual motor show, to be shipped to Grand Cayman when the show is over as undoubtedly the very first C7 to be delivered to a retail customer anywhere outside the USA.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
I have road-raced and owned sports cars all my life, from the UK, Italy and from Japan, and have always admired Porsches although up until recently, have never able to afford one. The C7 is the very first Corvette which has attracted me, in fact the very first American car I have ever considered purchasing, and I’d choose it again even if the Porsche 911 Carrera S was available at the same price – because of the “brutish” torque/displacement, better track times, better looks, multiple drive modes, and because I refuse to give up my clutch pedal. I’m convinced that the Corvette, up against the Porsche with manual gearbox, would equal or better the Porsche’s acceleration.
But, in spite of accusations against Edmunds.com of bias and unfair comparison, I agree with their conclusion that the 911 Carrera is better than the new Corvette. After all, these same reviewers handed the C7 a decisive victory as the better car against the SRT Viper ($101,990) and against the Nissan GTR Track Edition ($116,995). That they even consider the C7 a worthy rival of the 911 – a car perfected over several decades -- is a victory, stating that the C7 is as quick and rewarding, as good when driven hard and “maybe better”, offering a ride “every bit as refined”, and delivering better track times, better braking, better slalom times and better skid pad numbers.
However, I do take objection to their rather cavalier assertion that the fact the Corvette costs less than half the Porsche “is pure gravy”. I for one am delighted that GM did not decide to target the precision and additional refinement of the Porsche – along with the additional cost – so that I can afford the new Corvette, the first to seduce me, and so conclusively that I await delivery like an excited kid. While I agree that the Porsche is the “better” car, one has to ask the editors of Edmunds.com, in real-world terms, if the 911 Carrera S is better than two Corvette Stingrays, plus $5,600 in pocket money.
By default, Edmunds.com admits that there is nothing comparable to the Corvette C7 at anywhere near its price. And, pitting it against competing cars at twice the price – with resounding success – is a stunning victory. All the more so for sports car enthusiasts like myself, who are real people, in the real world, for whom money is not “gravy”, but a real-life budgetary constraint. In that context, the Corvette C7 Z51 represent unprecedented, if not unbelievable value.
Well said!!....Wifey and I will be on a cruise this Feb that'll take us to the Cayman Islands I'll keep an eye out for your blue C7..congrats!!
