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Old 09-25-2013, 08:35 AM   #1
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Default Comparison: Stingray vs. 911 vs. Ferrari F12

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"For the first time in my professional career, I can honestly say that a new Corvette is a complete package. There's nothing anywhere to betray America's favorite sports car. Stuff like crap seats, crappier interior, and an indismissible feeling of cheapness have been banished to the dustbin of automotive history. The new Corvette absolutely rocks. Around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, I found it nearly as planted as the 911. That said, I believe the 991 iteration of the 911 has the best suspension damping in the history of the production car. That's hard to beat. But more important, the RWD Corvette puts its power down to the ground as well as the AWD 911 does. Big props to the guys who perfected that trick sport differential -- it's close to magic."
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:55 AM   #2
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And how about that...3.7 second 0-60 (although they list 3.9 in the data matrix...perhaps a typo as there are a few others) 12.0 at 118.4 mph through the quarter, over .7 faster than the Porsche around LS and .2 behind the F12.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:57 AM   #3
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Courtesy of Motor Trend:

"For the first time in my professional career, I can honestly say that a new Corvette is a complete package. There's nothing anywhere to betray America's favorite sports car. Stuff like crap seats, crappier interior, and an indismissible feeling of cheapness have been banished to the dustbin of automotive history. The new Corvette absolutely rocks. Around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, I found it nearly as planted as the 911. That said, I believe the 991 iteration of the 911 has the best suspension damping in the history of the production car. That's hard to beat. But more important, the RWD Corvette puts its power down to the ground as well as the AWD 911 does. Big props to the guys who perfected that trick sport differential -- it's close to magic."
I LOVED WATCHING THE VIDEO!



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"...once we get our hands on the 991 GT3 and C7 Z06. Or should that be Porsche Turbo S and Corvette ZR1?" Johnny Lieberman, MT

Yes - these are the "comparos" we're all waiting for so when you compare "dollar for dollar," the Hi-Po versions of the C7 will trump the 911 C4S in SPADES! Now that GTR is going to be something to be reckoned with, but that's another story, I think.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:27 AM   #5
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How could it be a good drivers experience to come in 3rd out of 3?
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How could it be a good drivers experience to come in 3rd out of 3?
Third place by the Ferrari in this group is no loss. None of these cars are anything but awesome. Take the 3 hottest girls at the beach and the third hottest is still damn fu@king hot!!!!
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So the car ran a 1:38.28, does anyone know what the C6 GS ran? We all know the best ZO6 time was 1:34.43 which is almost 4 seconds faster, an eternity over a 2 mile track. I remember people saying the C7 was within a couple of seconds of the Z06 at VIR which is 3.2 miles long, what gives?
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What was motortrend's reason behind the 911 winning? Both the F12 and Stingray were quicker on the track. It looked like a track comparison to me. All three cars are sick though.
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What was motortrend's reason behind the 911 winning? Both the F12 and Stingray were quicker on the track. It looked like a track comparison to me. All three cars are sick though.
The MO of MT since it's inception is to accept large payments from Porsche. It is by far the worst car magazine.
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Can. Not. Wait!!!!
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The F12 sounds amazing!!!

Now only if my Vette would hurry up and get here...

BTW Anyone notice the tail light drip on the Vette? LMAO
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The MO of MT since it's inception is to accept large payments from Porsche. It is by far the worst car magazine.
I am sure it has nothing to do with them preferring the Car..........here we go again.

Did you read this part of the Article-

Remember, if you could boil down what we're looking for when it comes to a Best Driver's Car, confidence might be the ultimate factor. The 911 has it in spades. Explained Lago, "There always seems to be more grip in the front tires, and you can get away with utterly nonsensical speeds through corners. Never tells you anything's going to go wrong, only tells you to go faster." Evans said more or less the same thing. "After talking to Randy, I think the car is so good that it no longer really challenges you with its own flaws. Instead, it challenges you with your flaws." The 911 C4S proves you really and truly can drift an AWD car.

Did you skip these sentances-

The new Corvette absolutely rocks. Around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, I found it nearly as planted as the 911. That said, I believe the 991 iteration of the 911 has the best suspension damping in the history of the production car.

Why can't some of you just accept that they are all great cars and some people including Magazines professional drivers will prefer one over the other.

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I am sure it has nothing to do with them preferring the Car..........here we go again.

Why can't some of you just accept that they are all great cars and some people including Magazines professional drivers will prefer one over the other.
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There is more to the driving experience than just lap times and 0-60 IMO.
I think the comments by both Lago and Pobst were fair.
I have had a 911C4S (2009) until a few weeks ago and currently have a 2007 GT3 for the track and occasional DD while I wait for the C7 Z51,MRC,NPP, manual I ordered in arctic white with a red interior 3LT as a new DD.. The fact that all here cars were close is amazing especially considering the range of prices involved. Later the Z06 or Z07 can be compared with the 991 GT3 or GT3RS but that is in the future.
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Very cool!
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So the car ran a 1:38.28, does anyone know what the C6 GS ran? We all know the best ZO6 time was 1:34.43 which is almost 4 seconds faster, an eternity over a 2 mile track. I remember people saying the C7 was within a couple of seconds of the Z06 at VIR which is 3.2 miles long, what gives?
Yes, the base C6 Z06. Not the C6 Z06/Z07 with Cup tires and CC brakes.

Seeing as how the Cup tires were worth 2 seconds from the '09 ZR1 to '13 ZR1, we can assume that combo is worth about 3 seconds on a Z06 as well(have to step down to the GY tires and GS brakes).

So a base Z06 would run about 1:37. With the Stingray at 1:38, GM is right on target.

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Lets all remove our hats and bow down to the fabulous Porsche engineers who have to charge $151,000 for a car that can compete with a $55,000 C7. This is absolutely laughable.
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But, but, but... German.
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Okay that makes sense Kappa. thx...
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