C7 Delivered yesterday has already been towed back to dealer
Great post!
10-02-2013, 12:59 PM
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The differential failed do to lack of lubricant, not the transmission. Even so, the TR6070 is the same as the C6's TR6060, except for having the additional overdrive gear added. It is not a new design transmission, other than having the 7th gear added.
10-02-2013, 01:01 PM
#43
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I'm at the dealer now and know of the issue. I've seen the PDI sheet and the sheet for that portion reads
Under Vehicle: Visually inspect underbody; check all fluid systems for leaks, brake/fuel lines secured in clips.
There is nothing re: checking the fluid.
The following is a statement from the General Manager:
"The C7 in question did not have fluid in the differential. Checking the dif for fluid is not an item on the pre-delivery checklist. The dif failed. We are recalling all C7’s delivered to date at Jim Ellis Chevrolet to check the difs and we will check all of the ones soon to arrive. An e-mail has already gone out to all dealers in Georgia to check the difs. The highest levels at Chevrolet are aware of this problem, which we think is an anomaly. The Corvette Team is all over it, having promised already to expedite an assembly immediately. Customers should be reassured by Chevrolet's swift and immediate response."
Mark Frost, General Manager & Member of the National Chevrolet Performance Car Dealer Advisory Board.
Under Vehicle: Visually inspect underbody; check all fluid systems for leaks, brake/fuel lines secured in clips.
There is nothing re: checking the fluid.
The following is a statement from the General Manager:
"The C7 in question did not have fluid in the differential. Checking the dif for fluid is not an item on the pre-delivery checklist. The dif failed. We are recalling all C7’s delivered to date at Jim Ellis Chevrolet to check the difs and we will check all of the ones soon to arrive. An e-mail has already gone out to all dealers in Georgia to check the difs. The highest levels at Chevrolet are aware of this problem, which we think is an anomaly. The Corvette Team is all over it, having promised already to expedite an assembly immediately. Customers should be reassured by Chevrolet's swift and immediate response."
Mark Frost, General Manager & Member of the National Chevrolet Performance Car Dealer Advisory Board.
10-02-2013, 01:14 PM
#45
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I had a Lexus GX470 that had the same problem (No fluid in Diff). It can happen to any car manufacturer. The Car was smart enough to go into "Limp mode" (Top speed of 20MPH 2nd gear only) so there was no long term damage.
This happened at 15,000 miles when the Lexus dealer was supposed to change out the diff fluid and forgot to refill it. It's just human error.
This happened at 15,000 miles when the Lexus dealer was supposed to change out the diff fluid and forgot to refill it. It's just human error.
10-02-2013, 01:19 PM
#46
Burning Brakes
Oops... missed dealer post... Good to know!!!
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10-02-2013, 01:21 PM
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10-02-2013, 01:22 PM
#48
I had a Lexus GX470 that had the same problem (No fluid in Diff). It can happen to any car manufacturer. The Car was smart enough to go into "Limp mode" (Top speed of 20MPH 2nd gear only) so there was no long term damage.
This happened at 15,000 miles when the Lexus dealer was supposed to change out the diff fluid and forgot to refill it. It's just human error.
This happened at 15,000 miles when the Lexus dealer was supposed to change out the diff fluid and forgot to refill it. It's just human error.
Its either stupidity at the manufacturing site for the differential, or stupidity by the factory assembling the components to a final product.
At the factory- a checklist and reasonable precautions to CHECK the product before going out are not unrealistic to expect.
WTF?!?!?! its 3000+lbs of metal with velocity and combustible fluids going on a public road with innocent bystanders!
Its crap like this that gives the government a bigger door into regulating everything, or worse a lower than whale-$hit lawyer coming in and making an example of the company.
And its really human error AND stupidity when a dealer tech forgets to put in dif fluid.
10-02-2013, 01:23 PM
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10-02-2013, 01:26 PM
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That sucks. Glad to hear they figured it out quickly.
10-02-2013, 01:26 PM
#51
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Yeah, but at some point people are going to start buying the cars. Regardless of the magnitude of problems, which are always anticipated with new launches, I personally believe this car was rushed into production before it has reach the "Ready" threshold. But who am I to decide.
10-02-2013, 01:27 PM
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10-02-2013, 01:36 PM
#53
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This is a great dealership!!!
I have dealt with Jim Ellis Chevy for almost 20 years and also know Mark Frost at the dealership. I have always found them to be a class act.
Alvin
I have dealt with Jim Ellis Chevy for almost 20 years and also know Mark Frost at the dealership. I have always found them to be a class act.
Alvin
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10-02-2013, 01:43 PM
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Its not human error on a newly built car.
Its either stupidity at the manufacturing site for the differential, or stupidity by the factory assembling the components to a final product.
At the factory- a checklist and reasonable precautions to CHECK the product before going out are not unrealistic to expect.
WTF?!?!?! its 3000+lbs of metal with velocity and combustible fluids going on a public road with innocent bystanders!
Its crap like this that gives the government a bigger door into regulating everything, or worse a lower than whale-$hit lawyer coming in and making an example of the company.
And its really human error AND stupidity when a dealer tech forgets to put in dif fluid.
Its either stupidity at the manufacturing site for the differential, or stupidity by the factory assembling the components to a final product.
At the factory- a checklist and reasonable precautions to CHECK the product before going out are not unrealistic to expect.
WTF?!?!?! its 3000+lbs of metal with velocity and combustible fluids going on a public road with innocent bystanders!
Its crap like this that gives the government a bigger door into regulating everything, or worse a lower than whale-$hit lawyer coming in and making an example of the company.
And its really human error AND stupidity when a dealer tech forgets to put in dif fluid.
How errors like this occur is really mind boggling.
Very disappointing in my opinion.
10-02-2013, 01:48 PM
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We had 5 ford crown vic patrol cars this happened to back several years ago. It wasn't on the PDI list to check either. I was driving on of them when it went out. This can be real dangerous and has caused many fires in the past. Good catch Jim Ellis
10-02-2013, 01:57 PM
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Its not human error on a newly built car.
Its either stupidity at the manufacturing site for the differential, or stupidity by the factory assembling the components to a final product.
At the factory- a checklist and reasonable precautions to CHECK the product before going out are not unrealistic to expect.
WTF?!?!?! its 3000+lbs of metal with velocity and combustible fluids going on a public road with innocent bystanders!
Its crap like this that gives the government a bigger door into regulating everything, or worse a lower than whale-$hit lawyer coming in and making an example of the company.
And its really human error AND stupidity when a dealer tech forgets to put in dif fluid.
Its either stupidity at the manufacturing site for the differential, or stupidity by the factory assembling the components to a final product.
At the factory- a checklist and reasonable precautions to CHECK the product before going out are not unrealistic to expect.
WTF?!?!?! its 3000+lbs of metal with velocity and combustible fluids going on a public road with innocent bystanders!
Its crap like this that gives the government a bigger door into regulating everything, or worse a lower than whale-$hit lawyer coming in and making an example of the company.
And its really human error AND stupidity when a dealer tech forgets to put in dif fluid.
It would appear it was the factory. I'm pretty sure an employee or two are about to have their butts reamed for erring like this.
As to your government issue, WTF are you a tea bagger? A car broke down. It happens get over it.
As to the OP, thanks for giving every sane individual the heads-up. All of the guys who have not accepted delivery yet can question the dealer about this.
As stated on the Ferrari forum, Corvettes are anvils. Anvils do crack sometimes.
10-02-2013, 02:02 PM
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10-02-2013, 02:04 PM
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10-02-2013, 02:22 PM
#59
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Sorry to hear about your friend's troubles. Jim Ellis has David Fulcher as their lead Corvette mechanic, and he is fantastic. I am certain he will fix the problem, even though the C7 is brand new.
10-02-2013, 02:23 PM
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