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Old 10-22-2013, 04:40 PM
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Do you have launch control, and if so, did you try any passes using it?
Old 10-22-2013, 04:45 PM
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Nice job OP. The level of stupidity by some in here is astounding. Equating 60' times with 0-60, thinking flashing the converter equates to a computer tune, thinking Edmond's crappy 113 mph trap they used for all their tests was gospel.
Old 10-22-2013, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Ron
Congrats!
As a comparison, I ran 11.67@119.3 with a 1.711 60' on 10/17/03 @ Atco w/ a Vararam & Tune only in my C5Z06. Everything else was stock...VERY similar to your run. My point is that your car has more HP, so I agree that better times are coming when the car is broken in more and in better air/DA.

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what did you make to wheels back then with that set up....
Old 10-22-2013, 04:53 PM
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Give me a chance. I'll be at Bradenton in a month where they have a brand new track resurfaced that is! it's still in the high 80's here in Florida but cooler weather is coming.

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:55 PM
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Love to see it Craig! Would you consider black mirrors, spoiler or both on your car? It looks great as it is but some more black would tie it in nice IMO.
Old 10-22-2013, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
Curiously not a single other person has cracked 12 seconds yet that I've seen, why is that?
Car has only hit the streets a few weeks ago. Give it time. Atco is a FANTASTIC track, practically right at sea level. That combined with some cool air, the times will be phenomenal. Usually most people on the east coast run their fastest times over there. Track prep is usually great. Englishtown is fantastic as well. I'm sure if someone with a stock C7 with the same/similar driving ability went there in the same/similar conditions, we would see sub 12 second passes as well.
Old 10-22-2013, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
Curiously not a single other person has cracked 12 seconds yet that I've seen, why is that?
Magazine writers don't count because they can't drive (don't have enough time with a car)

Owner's are probably still breaking in their cars...give it 6 months.
Old 10-22-2013, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DCTandAWD?
Since you opened your mouth, I'll take this opportunity to say the C7 would probably cut 7 tenths off the ET with a DCT.
Please tell me more about your magic math. The car crosses the 1/4 mile mark in 4th gear. Meaning it makes 3 shifts. To cut 0.7 seconds it'd have to cut 0.23 seconds per shift when it already shifts in about 0.1 seconds. So... we're going to need some negative shift times... pretty amazing technology!!!! -0.13 second shifts baby!
Old 10-22-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by travisnd
Please tell me more about your magic math. The car crosses the 1/4 mile mark in 4th gear. Meaning it makes 3 shifts. To cut 0.7 seconds it'd have to cut 0.23 seconds per shift when it already shifts in about 0.1 seconds. So... we're going to need some negative shift times... pretty amazing technology!!!! -0.13 second shifts baby!
BUT it's not a DCT
Old 10-22-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LEAVINU
Congrats OP- killer time for a bone stock car.

To some of the comments on the first couple of pages around the manual Z06 cars another thing we must acknowledge is the tire brand. Jim Mero said himself during the tire shootout between GY and Michelin that he felt sticking with the 245/285 tire wasn't ideal but when the smaller Michelin lapped faster than the larger GY's he knew just how big of a difference the tire makes. I think thats another reason for the amazing 1.7 60' times in addition to the off idle tq delivery of the C7 vs the C6 LS3.

Not being a naysayer here since I have a LS2 based car, , but it would be interesting to see/know what a LS3 on the same tire(C7 OEM Michelin) would run.

That would make it a very close apples to apples comparison.

At the end of the day I could care less as I like the C7 and have the now very ancient LS2 based motor.
I'll take a 630rwhp "ancient LS2" - any time of day. That may take a bit more tire.
Old 10-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DCTandAWD?
You realize there is no pause in acceleration between gears in a DCT because the next gear engages before the last gear releases, right ????

You realize how advanced the launch control is on a DCT, right ???
DCTs pre-select the next gear, but they still have to shift. Most DCTs in cars other than hyper-exotics shift in a little under .05 seconds. DCT on a RWD car won't give you any better launch than OP was getting at ATCO. Your math is of the fuzzy BS variety.

FYI Porsche claims about 0.1 second per shift advantage over a manual trans car with average driver. So in the above example that's 0.3 seconds gained over an average stick jockey... not a modern auto shifting faster already.

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Racerns was the first in the 10s bone stock. I believe his main competition now holds the record with a 10.6X bone stock.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DCTandAWD?
Congrats to Snorman.
Too bad he didn't provide times for the runs or contact info, because I was planning on personally attending to watch him set the C7 stock record.
Oh well.
I'm not sure what your point is and why you feel the need to repeat it, as I ignored you the first time.
I emailed you back on Sunday night and told you that there was no fee to spectate. I don't know you, you don't need my cell phone number and I have no desire to give it to you.
You could have easily found out for yourself when the rental was...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=atco+track+rental
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:33 PM
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WOW!! Outstanding OP

I said I would never own another automatic Vette, now I might reconsider-great times..
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
BUT it's not a DCT

my wifes 2013 Volkswagen Beetle turbo is a DCT 6 speed with the 2.0 Turbo and it shifts flawlessly.
Old 10-22-2013, 05:53 PM
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I personally feel that there should be at least 1,500 miles on the vehicle before you race it. Although today I did take it from a dead stop into 4th gear at full throttle..........with a little power brake (2,000 rpm) with T/C off. Thanks Sean........

It pulls hard for a porker! We will see......I'm actually excited and looking forward to racing it.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
Love to see it Craig! Would you consider black mirrors, spoiler or both on your car? It looks great as it is but some more black would tie it in nice IMO.
Not a fan of black mirrors or spoiler but I did do a 20 percent tint (all around) yesterday.....it looks pretty dark now.
Are you going to be in Florida soon?

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Old 10-22-2013, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Blancpain
Magazine writers don't count because they can't drive (don't have enough time with a car)

Owner's are probably still breaking in their cars...give it 6 months.
Since I have the person who you quoted on my "Ignore List", I typically don't read their posts. Unfortunately, since you innocently quoted him, I once again see unfounded, ridiculous and thinly-veiled accusations that the car is not stock.

So here it is...
In the pits on Monday, all day long, with the hood open for everybody to see whether or not it has one of the few available mods on it (cold air kits and headers).



Surely, at some point during the five hours I was at the track, one of the guys running their 8-, 9-, 10- or 11-second cars would have noticed that the car didn't have heat shields and had aftermarket exhaust on it and/or a cold air kit. At the very least, the sound would have clearly given away that the car is not stock, especially header, right?

Oh...gee...I guess not.
Or maybe it had some sort of stealth, unknown exhaust system on it (and a cold air kit that nobody at the rental looking at the car noticed), and I removed it sometime between getting home yesterday at 5 pm and this afternoon...

Well, that sure looks stock.

And that sure looks like a factory header flange and heat shield.

And holy cow...what is that? Well it's one of the factory cats! Still there!

So what's left? Maybe I had it tuned? Yeah, that's it. It's got to be tuned because "not a single other person has cracked 12 seconds yet".

Here's what I say to that...$5000...put up or shut up.

I'll happily take the car to ANY local Chevrolet dealer (New Jersey or relatively close) or tuner who can do an ECM history log check and confirm that the car has not been flashed once we come to terms and deposit 50% in a mutually agreed upon escrow. If you have somebody you want to send to inspect the car...set it up. If you're not going to man up put your money where you mouth is, then drop it.
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Originally Posted by VNAMVET
Not a fan of black mirrors or spoiler but I did do a 20 percent tint (all around) yesterday.....it looks pretty dark now.
Are you going to be in Florida soon?
I wish Craig, too busy trying to make a living up here in the cold! As much as I would love to see your ride in person I meant I would love to see you run some great times. Take a picture of your finished tint and post when you can, I love red and black combos so it must look great!
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
BUT it's not a DCT
Originally Posted by VNAMVET
my wifes 2013 Volkswagen Beetle turbo is a DCT 6 speed with the 2.0 Turbo and it shifts flawlessly.
Your point being that it is therefore OK for some to continue to whine about the fact that the C7 does not have a DCT? Really?

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