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Old 11-18-2013, 04:30 PM
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Default Production of 2014 Camaro ZL1 and 1LE Suspended Because of SUMMER tires - C7 issue?

I wonder if this is going to apply to Corvettes as well? I pulled this from an F-body forum which I am a member of.

Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades!

The purpose of this note is to update you on two ordering activities impacting 2014 Camaro -- and because of your involvement in the Camaro Enthusiast community, we wanted you to know--

Effective Thursday, November 21, 2013, Chevrolet will temporarily suspend order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 model and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) due to the effect of cold weather on the performance tires for these models. Again, it is only a temporary suspension that does not impact the Camaro LS, LT and SS models ordered without 1LE. Order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) will resume on Tuesday, February 11, 2014.

The suspension of ordering will impact Camaro production from January 2014 to March 2014. It is expected any ZL1 or SS models with the Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) produced through December 2013 will be shipped to dealers.

The other ordering issue involves the 2014 Camaro Convertible beige top (RPO: 67T). The beige convertible top will end production for the 2014 model year during the month of January 2014 -- due to our Camaro Spring Edition Package that will go into production then. The last opportunity for dealers to submit orders for convertibles with the beige top (RPO: 67T) will be the Dealer Order Submission Process (DOSP) cycle that starts Thursday, December 5, 2013 and concludes Tuesday, December 10. 2013 -- therefore -- if you desire a 2014 Camaro with a Beige convertible top - you need to visit your dealer immediately to place your order.

The end of beige top production does not impact the availability of the black top (RPO: 19T). As a reminder, the recently announced 2014 Camaro Spring Special edition, when ordered with a convertible model, will include a blue convertible top.

Thank you for you continued enthusiasm for all things Camaro!
Old 11-18-2013, 04:50 PM
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Why don't they just let the new owners put winter tires on these cars?????
Old 11-18-2013, 04:53 PM
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No idea, but I if this affects the Camaro, you would think it would affect the C7, no?
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Hopefully a situation unique to those tires made specifically for the Camaro. Corvettes have come from the factory with exclusively summer performance tires for decades and the new tire developed by Michelin for the C7 is not the same tire as that on any Camaro.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Hopefully a situation unique to those tires made specifically for the Camaro. Corvettes have come from the factory with exclusively summer performance tires for decades and the new tire developed by Michelin for the C7 is not the same tire as that on any Camaro.
True, but given the warnings about driving our C7's in the cold are clearly stated in the manual, it makes you wonder what GM will do for liability reasons.
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C6s have had "Summer tires" on them since 2005. Didn't stop production of them over the years.
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Interesting that there is no news on this on the Internet, except on Camaro Forums . . . . . . . . can the OP from the forum where you extracted the info, provide the Chevrolet document for us all to read & learn?
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
True, but given the warnings about driving our C7's in the cold are clearly stated in the manual, it makes you wonder what GM will do for liability reasons.
Lawyer talk. Standard warnings for all summer performance tires. Situational awareness IS important because the tires do not perform nearly as well when cold and all drivers do need to be aware of that.
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
Interesting that there is no news on this on the Internet, except on Camaro Forums . . . . . . . . can the OP from the forum where you extracted the info, provide the Chevrolet document for us all to read & learn?
I just made a post asking him for it. The OP is legitimate though and has worked with high level people in GM and helped get the 5th gen produced. Good guy.

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Lawyer talk. Standard warnings for all summer performance tires. Situational awareness IS important because the tires do not perform nearly as well when cold and all drivers do need to be aware of that.
Yeah, I know. I just figured the Camaro would have the same warnings and not be in this situation.
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Folks are sure making a proverbial mountain about this issue
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
Yeah, I know. I just figured the Camaro would have the same warnings and not be in this situation.
Do you know what manufacturer makes the Camaro tire?
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Do you know what manufacturer makes the Camaro tire?

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To the best of my knowledge, they come with; Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G: 2 Extreme Performance Summer Tires . . . which because of the directional design and the larger rear tires sizes, requires a specific tire for each of the 4 corners.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Do you know what manufacturer makes the Camaro tire?
The ZL1 and 1LE come with the Goodyear super car G2 tire. I would bet that it is a tire specific issue not a summer tires issue.
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
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To the best of my knowledge, they come with; Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G: 2 Extreme Performance Summer Tires . . . which because of the directional design and the larger rear tires sizes, requires a specific tire for each of the 4 corners.
Originally Posted by racerns
The ZL1 and 1LE come with the Goodyear super car G2 tire. I would bet that it is a tire specific issue not a summer tires issue.
Sounds like Goodyear may need to modify their compound on those.
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
True, but given the warnings about driving our C7's in the cold are clearly stated in the manual, it makes you wonder what GM will do for liability reasons.
I suspect this comes under the legal category of "protecting idiots from themselves". The web is replete with pictures of "Z-rated" (or equivalent) tires cracking when exposed to cold temperatures. Notwithstanding the warnings from manufacturers, people drive anyway and risk tire failure and related consequences.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Do you know what manufacturer makes the Camaro tire?
My SS has Pirelli shoes.
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I'm guessing that the Michelin rep is chomping at the bits to get the High performance Camaro contract.

BTW, what is the latest on the Z28?

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Nothing official here...
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Nothing official here...
Chris responded only by saying the information came from the man himself, Scott Settlemire. Chris and Scott go way back and I completely trust Chris' word. It is bound to be in official writing soon though.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/2010...l1-1le-876864/
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Originally Posted by racerns
The ZL1 and 1LE come with the Goodyear super car G2 tire. I would bet that it is a tire specific issue not a summer tires issue.
This is correct. The G2 tire is not only specific to the referenced Camaros, it is used on the '13/'14 GT500's as well and the GT500 owner's manual supplement warns against using them in cold temperatures. A number of '13/'14 owners posted on SVTP that they had tires with cracks in them (some of them, despite never being in temps below 50*).
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