Kerbeck - World's Largest Stingray Allocation - 1277
11-29-2013, 07:44 PM
#21
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"After all, GM makes the same money per car whether its sells it to a big or small volume dealer; but the more in total it sells, the more money it makes."
Then why allocate to just volume dealers... Let all dealers order as many as they want. GM sells every car they produce.
With the way things are set up no small corvette dealer will become a big corvette dealer. Why not let the small guys grow.
Then why allocate to just volume dealers... Let all dealers order as many as they want. GM sells every car they produce.
With the way things are set up no small corvette dealer will become a big corvette dealer. Why not let the small guys grow.
11-29-2013, 08:09 PM
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Kerbeck is the place
just left Kerbeck after spending Thanksgiving at Harrahs. walked into dealership and smiled. This dealership has a full showroom of 2014 corvettes. salesman was outstanding and a real professional. having seen the different ones in person i was blown away by the white ones. must see to believe. all colors available, Z51 at MSRP non are $2000 under. given an excellent corvette stingray poster and sales brochure. explained to me the non Z51 has a better ride, i agree. wife was even smiling knowing i'm adding to the stable. went thru 7 since 1964. will update with pictures. Thank you Kerbeck, outstanding professional organization!
11-29-2013, 08:22 PM
#23
I've heard of other **** buyers doing the same thing and I, like most of the rest of the buying public, are gentlemen too. As a buyer, we should be aware of our buying opportunities and if both dealers were ok with the approach, then I assume that they were not going to deal with **** buyers either. Who comes first, the buyer or the seller? .....I ended up being happy after buying my TR Z51 C7 coupe, one dealer ended up happy selling it to me and taking my two trades in for it and making a lot of $ off of the ENTIRE deal while the other dealer sold the car the same day it came on his lot (and yes another happy buyer and seller). So...the theme here is what according to your **** presumptions? Maybe the cold weather is affecting your thought processes? I waited all summer to get my car and I didn't want to put my buying eggs in one basket knowing the super excited interests in buying the new C7. I see no losers in this outcome, do you?
"This is not yet a social economics society where everyone is treated in the same way so here is how my coupe buying story ended" nailed it
11-29-2013, 08:37 PM
#24
Drifting
"With the way things are set up no small corvette dealer will become a big corvette dealer. Why not let the small guys grow. "
Not true - Coughlin was no one in the vette world just a few years ago.
Having visited a whole host of dealers looking for my C6 many dealers really could care less if they got a C7, it just was not in their market area.
Not true - Coughlin was no one in the vette world just a few years ago.
Having visited a whole host of dealers looking for my C6 many dealers really could care less if they got a C7, it just was not in their market area.
11-30-2013, 09:47 AM
#25
Platinum Supporting Dealership
"After all, GM makes the same money per car whether its sells it to a big or small volume dealer; but the more in total it sells, the more money it makes."
Then why allocate to just volume dealers... Let all dealers order as many as they want. GM sells every car they produce.
With the way things are set up no small corvette dealer will become a big corvette dealer. Why not let the small guys grow.
Then why allocate to just volume dealers... Let all dealers order as many as they want. GM sells every car they produce.
With the way things are set up no small corvette dealer will become a big corvette dealer. Why not let the small guys grow.
During that 12 month period, there was NO restriction on how many Corvettes a dealer could stock. Any dealer in the country had the same opportunity that we did to earn those 1,277 2014 Corvettes. All they had to do was order and sell new 2012s and 2013s. I have no pity for a dealer sitting there saying that the allocoation process is not fair when they held their own fate in their own hands and chose not to act on it. Many of the dealers here on the forum took advantage of that system and lost money on 2013 Corvettes (yes, lost real money) to earn the 2014s.
Dave
11-30-2013, 02:08 PM
#26
Melting Slicks
No. The real answer is the way things are set up, the small guy can't be a big guy during the introductory, high profit year, without first earning his way into the big league Corvette sales world during the not so profitable mid and end of generation years. The small guys have no intention of growing into a big Corvette dealer - they only want to capitalize on the big profits the C7 is offering now and then go back to selling Silverado's and Tahoe's, which are the most profitable Chevy's to sell for the rest of the C7's lifespan.
12-02-2013, 08:51 AM
#27
Instructor
Last January (2012) EVERY Chevrolet dealer was told that the allocation on the 2014 Corvette would be based on how any new Corvettes that dealer sold from January 3, 2012 through January 3, 2013 and that all they had to do was sell at least 4 during that 12 months to be qualified as a Corvette dealer for the new Stingray.
During that 12 month period, there was NO restriction on how many Corvettes a dealer could stock. Any dealer in the country had the same opportunity that we did to earn those 1,277 2014 Corvettes. All they had to do was order and sell new 2012s and 2013s. I have no pity for a dealer sitting there saying that the allocoation process is not fair when they held their own fate in their own hands and chose not to act on it. Many of the dealers here on the forum took advantage of that system and lost money on 2013 Corvettes (yes, lost real money) to earn the 2014s.
Dave
During that 12 month period, there was NO restriction on how many Corvettes a dealer could stock. Any dealer in the country had the same opportunity that we did to earn those 1,277 2014 Corvettes. All they had to do was order and sell new 2012s and 2013s. I have no pity for a dealer sitting there saying that the allocoation process is not fair when they held their own fate in their own hands and chose not to act on it. Many of the dealers here on the forum took advantage of that system and lost money on 2013 Corvettes (yes, lost real money) to earn the 2014s.
Dave
Fair Enough Dave, if a small dealer in the middle of no where could have ordered as many C6's in 2012-2013 as they wanted, to get a huge allocation for C7 then you are right that's on them.
12-02-2013, 09:52 AM
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Last January (2012) EVERY Chevrolet dealer was told that the allocation on the 2014 Corvette would be based on how any new Corvettes that dealer sold from January 3, 2012 through January 3, 2013 and that all they had to do was sell at least 4 during that 12 months to be qualified as a Corvette dealer for the new Stingray. During that 12 month period, there was NO restriction on how many Corvettes a dealer could stock. Any dealer in the country had the same opportunity that we did to earn those 1,277 2014 Corvettes. All they had to do was order and sell new 2012s and 2013s. I have no pity for a dealer sitting there saying that the allocation process is not fair when they held their own fate in their own hands and chose not to act on it. Many of the dealers here on the forum took advantage of that system and lost money on 2013 Corvettes (yes, lost real money) to earn the 2014s.
Dave
Dave
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12-02-2013, 10:06 AM
#29
Racer
Like all business if you have the money to put out early you will win in the end. I am ordering at a local dealer because I want to be able to take the car in for service and be treated right because I bought it from them. I want to build a lasting business relationship. (hopefully) Ford dealers get GT500's based on Mustang sales, GM is no different.
Eric
Eric
12-02-2013, 11:12 AM
#30
Platinum Supporting Dealership
We sold 2013s all over the country. The people from 2,000 miles away would have loved to buy locally but their dealer didn't stock them and weren't willing to give discounts to order one.
As far as resale value, a lot of that has to do with the low price of the 2014s. Of course, as soon as we see the "big" discounts on the 2014s that everyone is asking for then that will effect the resale value on those as well.
Dave
12-02-2013, 12:16 PM
#31
Instructor
Like all business if you have the money to put out early you will win in the end. I am ordering at a local dealer because I want to be able to take the car in for service and be treated right because I bought it from them. I want to build a lasting business relationship. (hopefully) Ford dealers get GT500's based on Mustang sales, GM is no different.
Eric
Eric
I 100% agree.
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12-02-2013, 01:04 PM
#32
Melting Slicks
Unless things have changed, Ford doesn't do it that way - every dealer gets 2 GT500 Coupes and 1 GT500 Convertible to sell irrespective of how many cars or Mustangs they sold in the past. That is why the generally sell at MSRP+ in high volume areas like NY/NJ/MA/FL/CA.
12-02-2013, 01:15 PM
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My local dealer did not have an allocation and was honest about it. So I ordered from Kerbeck. My local dealer will be happy to service my new C7 when it arrives as the sales manager was happy I was able to order one. Dave has been awesome in assisting me through the order and built process.
12-02-2013, 01:24 PM
#34
Racer
Unless things have changed, Ford doesn't do it that way - every dealer gets 2 GT500 Coupes and 1 GT500 Convertible to sell irrespective of how many cars or Mustangs they sold in the past. That is why the generally sell at MSRP+ in high volume areas like NY/NJ/MA/FL/CA.
Eric
12-02-2013, 02:22 PM
#36
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Dave
