C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

8L90 in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette !!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-07-2013, 11:41 AM
  #41  
MikeyTX
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
MikeyTX's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2005
Location: Big Bend Country, TX
Posts: 29,114
Received 2,186 Likes on 1,337 Posts
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15- '16-'17-‘18-‘19-'20-'21
NCM Lifetime Member


Default

Originally Posted by GRG
My C7 will be an antique before I get it. NOT HAPPY. I think I will just let someone else have it, Talk about price dropping when you drive it off the lot! Here is what will be available at the dealer-coming soon. C7, Torch red, 3LT, Z51, blk. wheels, red seats, auto trans(THE CHEAP 6 SPEED), NPP, Red calipers, hood stinger, cf interior, cf mirrors and spoiler. Send me a PM if interested, I will let the first five interested parties know when it arrives. It is near Dallas. It was at code 3400 about 2 weeks ago. I'm going out to the garage and hug my C6.


Just remember, don't stick your tongue to any of the exposed metal parts ...............
Old 12-07-2013, 11:48 AM
  #42  
kdepew
Instructor
 
kdepew's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Posts: 213
Received 43 Likes on 21 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by MikeyTX
[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Just remember, don't stick your tongue to any of the exposed metal parts ...............
He is in Dallas. He shouldn't have to worry about that.
Old 12-07-2013, 12:04 PM
  #43  
tuxnharley
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tuxnharley's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,962
Received 1,937 Likes on 1,183 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Shrike6
It will be interesting how Tadge tap dances around his previous statements about how an 8 speed auto was not needed.


Exactly! This is a nice bit of redemption for those of us who doubted his statement at the time and then got slammed by the usual acolytes here on the Forum who would tolerate no criticism.......
Old 12-07-2013, 12:06 PM
  #44  
MikeyTX
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
MikeyTX's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2005
Location: Big Bend Country, TX
Posts: 29,114
Received 2,186 Likes on 1,337 Posts
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15- '16-'17-‘18-‘19-'20-'21
NCM Lifetime Member


Default

Originally Posted by kdepew
He is in Dallas. He shouldn't have to worry about that.
That's why I said it. It's around 19 deg in the metro Dallas area at the moment. That's in addition to the roughly 2 to 3 inches of accumulated ice on most of the roadways.
Old 12-07-2013, 12:13 PM
  #45  
Bill17601
AIR FORCE VETERAN
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bill17601's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,223
Received 439 Likes on 196 Posts

Default

Oh no! I am stuck with a six speed automatic...
Old 12-07-2013, 12:15 PM
  #46  
Achmed
Drifting
 
Achmed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,684
Received 82 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

What do you think will be the difference in 1/4 mile time between the 6 and 8 speed?

Is this making anyone cancel their 2014 orders?
Old 12-07-2013, 12:21 PM
  #47  
LIE2ME
Le Mans Master
 
LIE2ME's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2012
Location: Camden SC
Posts: 6,814
Received 4,559 Likes on 1,641 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by GRG
I'm going out to the garage and hug my C6.
I just came in from the garage, where my 2012 C6 received a fresh coat of Rejex, had the seats cleaned and conditioned, windshield polished with Jaguar windshield paste, all windows cleaned inside and out (including the difficult rear glass), and the wheels & tires treated.

I then stood back, admired my Carlisle Blue Metallic beauty, and said...

"Yeah, I can wait for 2015..."
Old 12-07-2013, 12:25 PM
  #48  
gthal
Safety Car
 
gthal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,937
Received 1,170 Likes on 486 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Achmed
What do you think will be the difference in 1/4 mile time between the 6 and 8 speed?

Is this making anyone cancel their 2014 orders?
Minimal... 0.1 maybe. Who knows but I don't believe it would be enough to make a meaningful difference.
Old 12-07-2013, 12:45 PM
  #49  
Runge_Kutta
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
Runge_Kutta's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2000
Location: East Bay CA
Posts: 1,195
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

If one assumes that the gears are evenly spread so that the ratio between gear n+1 and n is the same for all single gear changes, then here's what you learn:

6L80 - gear ratio spread = 6 (4.027/0.667)
8L90 - gear ratio spread = 7

7^(1/8) = 1.27537
6^(1/6) = 1.34801

So, if eight-gear is 0.667 then first gear is 4.667 versus 4.027 for the 6L80e. Next, the gear ratio between successive gears drops from 1.35 to 1.275 in going to the 8L90(e?), i.e. tighter gear ratios. If you have a 6L80e with a 2.56 rear axle ratio, switching transmissions would be like changing the read end to a 2.97 (increase the ratio by 15.9%).
Old 12-07-2013, 01:11 PM
  #50  
Achmed
Drifting
 
Achmed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,684
Received 82 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gthal
Minimal... 0.1 maybe. Who knows but I don't believe it would be enough to make a meaningful difference.
Then who cares about whether one gets a 2014 A6 rather than A8?
Old 12-07-2013, 01:16 PM
  #51  
gthal
Safety Car
 
gthal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,937
Received 1,170 Likes on 486 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Achmed
Then who cares about whether one gets a 2014 A6 rather than A8?
Shift responsiveness and speed would be other reasons... and likely more important for most.
Old 12-07-2013, 01:18 PM
  #52  
shaan
Melting Slicks
 
shaan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Frisco TX
Posts: 2,348
Likes: 0
Received 84 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

Good for people who are waiting for their 8spd, I don't have the patience to wait so I got a A6 and loving every damn bit of it
Old 12-07-2013, 01:22 PM
  #53  
Shaka
Safety Car
 
Shaka's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2002
Location: FLL Florida
Posts: 4,168
Received 1,331 Likes on 790 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by B747VET
Perhaps you meant something sardonic, but, the gentleman does have his facts straight. I myself heard Tadge says those exact words in live speeches on two different occasions.

That being said, I'm not a double clutch fanatic or anti-Tadge. But, we can't pretend he didn't say those words on numerous occasions and in numerous videos during 2013.

At this point we are thinking C7 manual, but a DCT with a lightening fast shift would be worth considering!
Context, context, context. I heard it to.
Old 12-07-2013, 01:37 PM
  #54  
2K3Z06
Burning Brakes
 
2K3Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: KADS- If it has wings or an engine, I can break it. Dallas TX
Posts: 1,184
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Go something like this. an 8 speed is not needed in the vette, because of the bags of torque. to, well this is the best transmission GM has ever produced, lighting fast shift speed, uber economy, and faster around the track due to better gear selection. its a must have for any new vette. buy one of these cause the A6 is yesterdays news.......

Im sure he is smart enough to not use A6 and obsolete in the same sentence, after what happened last time.
Old 12-07-2013, 01:42 PM
  #55  
JoesC5
Team Owner
 
JoesC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: Springfield MO
Posts: 41,733
Received 1,699 Likes on 1,213 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Runge_Kutta
If one assumes that the gears are evenly spread so that the ratio between gear n+1 and n is the same for all single gear changes, then here's what you learn:

6L80 - gear ratio spread = 6 (4.027/0.667)
8L90 - gear ratio spread = 7

7^(1/8) = 1.27537
6^(1/6) = 1.34801

So, if eight-gear is 0.667 then first gear is 4.667 versus 4.027 for the 6L80e. Next, the gear ratio between successive gears drops from 1.35 to 1.275 in going to the 8L90(e?), i.e. tighter gear ratios. If you have a 6L80e with a 2.56 rear axle ratio, switching transmissions would be like changing the read end to a 2.97 (increase the ratio by 15.9%).
While the A8 has a 7 spread, I doubt that it all will show up in the lower gears. I doubt if it will have a .667 8th gear, more like a .550(guessing at that number) so first gear won't be as low as 4.667. The 8 speed is more about fuel economy then first gear acceleration.
Old 12-07-2013, 01:51 PM
  #56  
Bill17601
AIR FORCE VETERAN
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bill17601's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,223
Received 439 Likes on 196 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JoesC5
While the A8 has a 7 spread, I doubt that it all will show up in the lower gears. I doubt if it will have a .667 8th gear, more like a .550(guessing at that number) so first gear won't be as low as 4.667. The 8 speed is more about fuel economy then first gear acceleration.
Old 12-07-2013, 01:58 PM
  #57  
musclecar6
Le Mans Master

 
musclecar6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: Ft Mill, SC
Posts: 9,217
Received 148 Likes on 104 Posts

Default

Yep you're right. Ole Tadge is gonna have himself a time "splainin" his way around this one. I agree he'll be careful not to even slightly infer the A6 is an over the hill has been. That would be akin to saying a certain part of a guy's body is not large enough.

Get notified of new replies

To 8L90 in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette !!!

Old 12-07-2013, 02:04 PM
  #58  
sdurg24
Drifting
Support Corvetteforum!
 
sdurg24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2010
Location: wolfeboro nh
Posts: 1,641
Received 141 Likes on 82 Posts

Default

I'm just not getting why someone who desires a DCT is considered a "loon"? Maybe it's an attempt to preempt those who would argue in favor of the DCT and maybe it's an attempt to use ridicule in place of reasoned argument. Either way it's an unacceptable form of winning an argument. Manual vs. auto has been going on for a long time. Seems that we should at least hear the cost/benefit of the DCT before we make a choice. Some pretty good automotive people seem to think it is worth at least pursuing. I have driven many Corvettes with both auto and manual and at this stage of my life I prefer a manual. However I am open to driving a DCT to see if it's something I would prefer. At the very least a sequential shift such as the C6R should be considered. Will the C7R sport a DCT? That may well point to the future for ZC7s. As Sgt. Friday used to say, "Just the facts mam, just the facts."
Old 12-07-2013, 02:06 PM
  #59  
JoesC5
Team Owner
 
JoesC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: Springfield MO
Posts: 41,733
Received 1,699 Likes on 1,213 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by musclecar6
Yep you're right. Ole Tadge is gonna have himself a time "splainin" his way around this one. I agree he'll be careful not to even slightly infer the A6 is an over the hill has been. That would be akin to saying a certain part of a guy's body is not large enough.
I wonder if he will stand on the stage and tell us the 2014 C7 is obsolete.
Old 12-07-2013, 02:07 PM
  #60  
gthal
Safety Car
 
gthal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,937
Received 1,170 Likes on 486 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JoesC5
I wonder if he will stand on the stage and tell us the 2014 C7 is obsolete.
I would expect as much when the C8 comes out... and I won't be offended either because it will likely be true


Quick Reply: 8L90 in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette !!!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 PM.