Z51 or not?
12-09-2013, 11:58 PM
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Flip side is that private resale of a Z51 may bring a better price, however, because of the low cost of the package, not so sure about trade in.
The real question is, why is you're dealer trying to talk you out of the Z51? I mean, it's nothing to them really whether you order it or not. Unless, they know that they won't be getting a Z51 allocation for some time to come. I would ask about that.
12-14-2013, 11:53 PM
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Gm has stated factory Z51 brakes will last approx 20000 miles with no track use at a replacement cost of $2500, and the extra clearance is no different cause the non Z51 does not have the center gound spoiler on the front, Sve your money its the same car with less maintenance
12-15-2013, 01:08 AM
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12-15-2013, 04:27 AM
#45
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But agreed, the dealer is going for the lowest wholesale price they can, and if your car is modded in any way, forget about it.
I had a couple trade in a '99 Tahoe for an '04 Trailblazer, this back in '04. The Tahoe was in good shape, so our used car manager put it on our lot. I think we gave them like $5 or $6K. The manager put a tag on it for $19K.
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12-15-2013, 05:26 AM
#46
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I bet a lot of people didn't know that was the cost... Could help other people decide on the issue as well.
12-15-2013, 05:41 AM
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My chain considers itself tugged.
It's SOOO important to use the correct terminology on this forum!
What we need is a separate C7 forum for those of us who didn't grow up in a garage or at Daytona and know as much about cars (other than we like them!) as we do astrophysics ... where we can ask stupid questions (to y'all, but not to us) without getting run out of town on a rail.
It's SOOO important to use the correct terminology on this forum!
What we need is a separate C7 forum for those of us who didn't grow up in a garage or at Daytona and know as much about cars (other than we like them!) as we do astrophysics ... where we can ask stupid questions (to y'all, but not to us) without getting run out of town on a rail.
Everyone should be allowed to feel comfortable asking a question.. If you don't know, ask...... Sometimes you just have to walk around a few mud holes that pop up from time to time as you walk down the road.
12-15-2013, 08:57 AM
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We don't know whether that's the cost. I doubt it is. The person who said that hasn't responded to questions as to when and where GM actually said this. ***-u-ming that brake jobs will cost $2,500 every 20,000 miles won't help make a good decision because wrong information is worse than no information.
12-15-2013, 09:30 AM
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.While I have no doubt that it'll cost more than the base, $2500 every 20k miles is complete BS. I highly doubt they'll need to be replaced that often under normal usage. More importantly, the cost of replacing all of them will be nowhere near that high. Just look at rotor/brake pad costs for previous corvettes (not counting the ZR1 using carbon ceramics). There's really nothing all that special about the Z51 brakes that would justify such a high cost.
12-15-2013, 01:49 PM
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We don't know whether that's the cost. I doubt it is. The person who said that hasn't responded to questions as to when and where GM actually said this. ***-u-ming that brake jobs will cost $2,500 every 20,000 miles won't help make a good decision because wrong information is worse than no information.
The only real answer would come from the FSM for Stingray. It really would depend on what is listed as required for brake service. For example, on the Z51 two peice rotors, can they be machined, or does the FSM require replacement? Which is very possible.
However, iirc, the 2014 Z51 brake system is comparable to the Z06 set up? If so, I would start there for an idea of brake job proceedure and cost? But $2,500 wouldn't suprise me, but every 20K miles (street driven) would.
12-15-2013, 05:40 PM
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Gm has stated factory Z51 brakes will last approx 20000 miles with no track use at a replacement cost of $2500, and the extra clearance is no different cause the non Z51 does not have the center gound spoiler on the front, Sve your money its the same car with less maintenance
(and hell.. pads can easily be replaced in your own garage in an afternoon)
12-15-2013, 06:04 PM
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Gm has stated factory Z51 brakes will last approx 20000 miles with no track use at a replacement cost of $2500, and the extra clearance is no different cause the non Z51 does not have the center gound spoiler on the front, Sve your money its the same car with less maintenance
12-15-2013, 06:31 PM
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Gm has stated factory Z51 brakes will last approx 20000 miles with no track use at a replacement cost of $2500, and the extra clearance is no different cause the non Z51 does not have the center gound spoiler on the front, Sve your money its the same car with less maintenance
Don't feed the troll....
12-15-2013, 06:56 PM
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Even if the rotors need replacing, why would it be 2500? Am I missing something about the Z51s brakes? I mean you could get a full set of C6 Z06 rotors for like 400 bucks. What is it about Z51 brakes that could possibly inflate the price by a factor of 5?
12-16-2013, 01:23 AM
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Amazing if some one posts anything negative they are immediately a troll. 
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
12-16-2013, 07:37 AM
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$2500 for a brake job is retarded! That is just plain stupid.
I'm sorry but all these guys on here who absolutely have to have Z51 are likely never to really need any of it. The base car has great handling, good brakes and a very adequate lubrication system. Tuning fork wheels, indeed. Look at the after market already. More than you can imagine. The $2800 for Z51 is no bargain if you really won't make use of it on a road course or similar track conditions.
I'm sorry but all these guys on here who absolutely have to have Z51 are likely never to really need any of it. The base car has great handling, good brakes and a very adequate lubrication system. Tuning fork wheels, indeed. Look at the after market already. More than you can imagine. The $2800 for Z51 is no bargain if you really won't make use of it on a road course or similar track conditions.
12-16-2013, 08:43 AM
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Amazing if some one posts anything negative they are immediately a troll.
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
$740 to replace the pads AND rotors on all four corners from TireRack. Pretty close to 1/4 of the cost that is being questioned. And while the new C7 does have great brakes, they are not CCB's or anything else exotic. So no, I still don't believe $2500 is anything CLOSE to what a basic brake job will cost.
And you wonder why we called the post a troll comment? You might do YOUR due diligence and tell us what you get for pricing.
12-16-2013, 08:46 AM
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Amazing if some one posts anything negative they are immediately a troll.
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
Consider this: two heavy duty 2011 C6 Z06 rear rotors will cost you your lungs. Check out the cost at GM parts house. You can probably get them cheaper from EBC.
If you replace all four rotors and pads it is very possible that you will be looking at a material amount of money. Dealers usually charge list price. $ 2,500.00 is quite possible and I always look for a bargain.
The new C7 Z51 has brakes which are comparable. If you utilize EBC the rotors should be cheaper than direct replacement from GM but a four wheel brake job will be expensive......
My suggestion is to spend some time, do a search and look at the cost of parts....... and yes you can get cheaper rotors & pads but sometimes you get what you pay for....... cheaper rotors usually weigh more and now you have more rotating mass.
as the old saying goes......
"If you want to play you have to pay".
I find it frustrating that most of you on this forum only want to read what you want to read anything else is put down.
12-16-2013, 09:17 AM
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$2500 for a brake job is retarded! That is just plain stupid.
I'm sorry but all these guys on here who absolutely have to have Z51 are likely never to really need any of it. The base car has great handling, good brakes and a very adequate lubrication system. Tuning fork wheels, indeed. Look at the after market already. More than you can imagine. The $2800 for Z51 is no bargain if you really won't make use of it on a road course or similar track conditions.
I'm sorry but all these guys on here who absolutely have to have Z51 are likely never to really need any of it. The base car has great handling, good brakes and a very adequate lubrication system. Tuning fork wheels, indeed. Look at the after market already. More than you can imagine. The $2800 for Z51 is no bargain if you really won't make use of it on a road course or similar track conditions.
