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Old 01-13-2014, 11:03 PM
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Huuu, 620 HP aint enough, just wait once its out people actually start pulleying that thing and make it north of 700 RWHP with just bolt on's.

Mine is a 600 Rwhp........i tell you already bored with this and wanna atleast 700 RWHP.......asap, cant wait this winter gone.
Old 01-13-2014, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkgfr
oooohhh a internet tuff guy...smell this.




Its way harder to use all that power on a bike. Capable of and actual defeating a supercar with a bike are two different things junior.


My guess is you laid waste to exactly zero real zr1's or zo6's or any other supercar on your superbike.

But hey if you did I hope it was at a track.
Nah man it's just a fact, I'm no Internet tough guy, I imagine you've never been on one of those bikes or you wouldn't be so smug. The question is whether or not someone can handle a 600+ (at the crank) new Vette, and inside that car w/ all the nannies and riding on monster meat it's really not that big a deal as long as you have some brains & self control/awareness. Now, harnessing 190 hp on a 350 lb bike beneath your legs while morons are driving around texting on their smartphones is a different experience altogether and requires MUCH more skill and discipline- you rarely get 2nd chances on a liter bike my friend.

There are other cars just as, if not more powerful (w/ minor mods) out there for much cheaper- a CTSv, Shelby mustang, and ZL1 Camaro come instantly to mind, seems like most people are doing OK w/ those.

Lastly, forget the super bike give me a 600 and some nylon front straps and you'll be seeing my tail lights in your Z06 at the track. It doesn't take that much skill just tie downs an extended swing arm maybe sprocket swap and reverse shift linkage on a litre bike to destroy anything on 4 wheels over and over and over again. Oh, and *****, you need ***** too.

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Old 01-13-2014, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
Time for Horsepower Control..
Mandatory background checks, including driving, criminal, and mental health records.
Public availability of your name, address, and vital info including SSAN

Auto confiscation if you violate any laws, putting you in the "not allowed to possess" category.

Limits on fuel and tire purchases, because who needs a new set of tires more than every 3 years?

If it's good enough for gun owners, it's good enough for owners of high horsepower death machines!

You're joking,correct???

USA 1

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Old 01-13-2014, 11:40 PM
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It's funny, you have people in here applauding the Z06 for it's power and handling capabilities but yet they condemn the Z51 saying it's only needed for the track.
Old 01-13-2014, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
It's funny, you have people in here applauding the Z06 for it's power and handling capabilities but yet they condemn the Z51 saying it's only needed for the track.
Good point
Old 01-13-2014, 11:44 PM
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Wonder what effect this will have at Callaway, Lingenfelter, and Hennessey ??
Old 01-13-2014, 11:48 PM
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I own a Z06 that I have modified. I don't drive it past my abilities.........its nice to have, my wife can take it to get groceries or I can open it up a bit when I fell the need.
When buying a high perf car, you don't always drive it like you race it.
Old 01-14-2014, 12:34 AM
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Let's face it, 95-99% of the population can't handle the power of a base Stingray let alone the new Z06.
Old 01-14-2014, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
This is a joke right? Or perhaps only being commented on by people who have never owned fast cars? There are probably hundreds of members on the board that own cars north of 800whp and still drive them almost daily, weather permitting. 600hp isnt impressive these days, its really not. A base car with a A&A or ECS blower kit on it is going to make more RWHP than this Z06.
My Z06 did 585 to the tires then I swapped the blower out for larger. Around 725 in a lighter car!
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I wonder if Chevy offered multiple engine choices, like the Jaguar F Type, how many would opt for each type.

I'm guessing if you had the supercharged V6, for $45k, the V8 for $60K and the supercharged V8 for $80K the breakdown would be 65%, 30% and 5%.

For most geezers buying a garage queen 420 HP is plenty.
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Originally Posted by Paws
You're joking,correct???

USA 1
You do see the sarcastic smilies, don't you?
Old 01-14-2014, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
Only if you're scared. The rest of us get a rise out of it.
maybe in a straight line

you can't hit it hard out of an apex, street tires don't have enough available traction

get the car unsettled, also harder to bring back with street tires

a really high end street tire can pull about 1.3g with a low angle input on premium pavement at 100deg

you can blow past that in an instant and that level of traction is somewhat rare on the street, most the time i would bet the number is closer to 1.00-1.10 g for a variety of reasons

i think this car is bad ***, really do, great marketing move, looks great, will put down awesome numbers. it's just in reality, without warm slicks and downforce a car can only do so much

even the ferrari FXX is limited for the very same reasons and that car was designed as a street car turned race car
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I think it just comes down to respecting the car for what it is. I am coming out of a 2014 GT500 and it drove however I wanted it to. I am just at the point where I do not need anymore than the C7's power, also my son has a 700 RWHP 2011 GT500 that I can run at the track so all bases are covered.
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
Only if you're scared. The rest of us get a rise out of it.
I am not even sure what that means, scared of what? How do you get a rise out of 630HP compared to the regular C7 on the street??? All you do is use less of the motor. Fun to me is winding it out, you can not really do that much with either Corvette, but you certainly can do it more with the C7 then the Z06.

Pretty immature comment.......
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Originally Posted by harmonyp
625 / 635 - those are insane numbers. "Outside" of people who are going to track them - how many street drivers can control a vehicle with that much HP and torque?
How many can handle the Stingray? When I sold my 07 in prep for my 14 I asked the couple if they have ever driven a performance car. They said no. I gave them a few quick words of advice.
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Originally Posted by racebum
maybe in a straight line

you can't hit it hard out of an apex, street tires don't have enough available traction

get the car unsettled, also harder to bring back with street tires

a really high end street tire can pull about 1.3g with a low angle input on premium pavement at 100deg

you can blow past that in an instant and that level of traction is somewhat rare on the street, most the time i would bet the number is closer to 1.00-1.10 g for a variety of reasons

i think this car is bad ***, really do, great marketing move, looks great, will put down awesome numbers. it's just in reality, without warm slicks and downforce a car can only do so much

even the ferrari FXX is limited for the very same reasons and that car was designed as a street car turned race car
Exactly and to me power in a straight line gets old fast, you put yourself and others at risk quickly, it is not worth it.

I love the Z06, might look at one, but no chance I will NEED or USE the power it has on the Road.
Old 01-14-2014, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
This is a joke right? Or perhaps only being commented on by people who have never owned fast cars? There are probably hundreds of members on the board that own cars north of 800whp and still drive them almost daily, weather permitting. 600hp isnt impressive these days, its really not. A base car with a A&A or ECS blower kit on it is going to make more RWHP than this Z06.
This is exactly why I was disappointment the Z06 is coming super charged. Are they trying to be like Ford now? For ****'s sake!

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Old 01-14-2014, 09:29 AM
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My super mild NA 427 C5 made 656/610 on a SuperFlo engine dyno and 577/530 on a DJ. It was a blast on the street with instant tip in which I would also expect with a top mount blower on the Z. Of course, I had 345x30 tires on the back which helped....a little.
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Seriously there are and have been many other cars with more power. How many people never even test the power of their C6 or C7 Vette. They just putter around looking good.
Old 01-14-2014, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C5Dobie
Nah man it's just a fact, I'm no Internet tough guy, I imagine you've never been on one of those bikes or you wouldn't be so smug. The question is whether or not someone can handle a 600+ (at the crank) new Vette, and inside that car w/ all the nannies and riding on monster meat it's really not that big a deal as long as you have some brains & self control/awareness. Now, harnessing 190 hp on a 350 lb bike beneath your legs while morons are driving around texting on their smartphones is a different experience altogether and requires MUCH more skill and discipline- you rarely get 2nd chances on a liter bike my friend.

There are other cars just as, if not more powerful (w/ minor mods) out there for much cheaper- a CTSv, Shelby mustang, and ZL1 Camaro come instantly to mind, seems like most people are doing OK w/ those.

Lastly, forget the super bike give me a 600 and some nylon front straps and you'll be seeing my tail lights in your Z06 at the track. It doesn't take that much skill just tie downs an extended swing arm maybe sprocket swap and reverse shift linkage on a litre bike to destroy anything on 4 wheels over and over and over again. Oh, and *****, you need ***** too.



So I say its harder to do on a bike and you blather a paragraph about how hard it is, but its really easy if you mod the bike. ....Gee thanks.


Hell, make the turns sharp enough and the straights short enough and I'll outrun you and your bike on foot.


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