Kyflyer

Geez guys, can't we all just get along? If you know who made this statement then at least you are aware of what's going on some of the time. Cars are great, politics suck. But, I read all this crap, so what does that say about me?!? I spent several years of my life doing involuntary servitude for our government in another useless war last century. Politicians and politics suck, but they are an unfortunate fact of life in all countries, including ours. End of rant, back to cars!

450hp mike9

Guys like bob lutz is what drove GM off into a ditch. The products suck back then compared to now. The article I read came from the head engineer of the Corvette program . Yes from the horses mouth so what else should I read . Maybe watch faux news . GM products today are what people want to buy. I'm surprised that certain people who tried to kill the volt would buy a GM product like the Vette. If VP Biden likes corvettes maybe he had some influence over the treasury also. Why can't you just leave the crap out of this and give Biden a break about his attitude about the C7. Facts are facts and you can't change that.

rstrait

My peace of mind is directly proportional to the lack of thoughts that I entertain with regard to anyone associated with the current administration or their policies. Joe who?

musclecar6

Hey, if you guys want to talk politics on corvette forum, the best place for that is over on the sub forum, PR&C( Politics, Religion & Controversy). Archie Bunker and Meathead are well represented over there. It's not quite 50/50 however, with 90 percent dyed in the wool right wing types and the other 10 percent being democrats. It can be a lot of fun, as long as you don't take it seriously.

Turbooo2u

Maybe Biden would get more street cred around here if he shot one of his friends in the face with a shotgun. He has a great life story, he owns a Vette, he loves the new one. He's cool in my book.

Sin City

Ya can't walk into a 711 anymore without running into a corvette owner running the place.

Second Vette

"Faux News", that's funny. Outside of Redeye, I never watch it. They have too many Liberals on. I guess the other Networks, CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and all the Major Newspapers run by the Democrat Party dislike any competition.

Heck, we have the President of these United States blaming "Faux News" and O'Reilly the "moderate" for not spreading the Propaganda. Talk about demeaning the Office of the presidency.

I'll give Biden a break when he and his Boss Man give me a break from their "Fundamental Change" to Socialism. The idea that you think Slow Joe has influence over the United States Treasury because he "likes Corvettes" is truly scary.

This crap started when the OP posted an article from The (Liberal)Politico to start the Thread. It didn't come from Road & Track.
I sure as hell didn't start anything.

As far as your other blather, who tried to kill the Volt, the people that thought the Taxpayers shouldn't be propping it up? I wish the Taxpayers gave me a $7,500 Down Payment on my Corvette like they're doing with Volt's and Tesla's. Of course I'm kidding since I don't think anyone should get Taxpayer funded Welfare for buying a Car, electric or otherwise.

Now back to our scheduled "non-political" Corvette Programming. As I stated in a previous Reply to this Thread, this tit for tat solves nothing.
Outside of our mutual admiration for a certain Vehicle, I'm sure many here would not have much in common, Political or otherwise.

Second Vette

Sounds good to me. Perhaps the OP shouldn't have posted an article from The (Liberal) Politico to start this Thread in General Discussion.

As for me, I'm moving on to the "how do you work the radio" Thread.

craig04c5

Same here but when some jerk spouts his/hers political views I will do the same. Too many people watch and believe FOX news so I will not let all these BS non-facts go unchallenged as too many idiots believe anything they read/hear.

ATX-C7

...as do so many believe CNN, MSNBC and 99% of the liberal media.

Any who, I digress, the C7 ROCKS...that is what is forum is about right

vdavenp802

Guess you never read Bob Lutz's book, huh? Read it, it may change your mind. The trouble with many corps is outlined in his book.
As far as Biden goes, and the new Z06, when was the last time you saw a GOP at a UAW location speaking about the work (hard) they do?
Just sayin...........

onthebottom

This is one of the few good arguments for buying a Viper…..

onthebottom

I saw one bail out GM with Tarp funds (and thus we lost money - unlike the banks).

vdavenp802

Well I think you been watching too much FOX TV...., that said I too thought let the 'free' market run its course, course its not really 'free', but others saved GM and so the Corvette. Letting GM collapse would have surely lost the Corvette for all time. Thus making all Corvettes increase in price. So which do you prefer? Just remember we also didn't loose JOBS. GM goes down, jobs go to China. Free market works pretty good over there I understand.
IBTL

Second Vette

Don't know why I had the urge to check back, but here I am once again.

Simply put, a LEGAL Bankruptcy would not have closed down GM. Promoting the fallacy that GM would have just disappeared only tells me your Ideology is more important to you than Reality.

Reorganization through Bankruptcy is there to preserve a Company in distress and keep it operational. The way the ILLEGAL GM "too big to fail" Bailout was structured was only done to protect the Unions and their Voting Block.

The people who are first in line were screwed over by their own Government to appease the Unions. Shareholders were screwed and Dealers were selectively put out of Business. The whole affair stunk of Crony Capitalism, but I guess bailing out the Union Pension Plans and Health Plans was more important than abiding by Constitutional Law.

Funny how you cry Fox News and China when other Automobile Manufacturers would have picked up any lost GM Sales. I'm sure you are aware that many GM Products are already built in Mexico, including Cadillac SUV's.

That FOX TV line you spout only shows you have no stomach for opposing views, unlike the reality that Fox has many Liberals on to provide a Fair and Balanced choice for their Viewers. I am not a big Fox Viewer, only watching Redeye a few times a week for a laugh.

I often wonder if Liberals would feel the same way about "Mainstream Media" if 95% of the supposed Journalists reporting the News were from the opposing Party rather than being the Democrats they are today. I find Liberal outrage very amusing considering they control the entire Propaganda supply being foisted upon the Populace by the Ruling Class.

If you like your Doctor, Plan, Gun, Freedom you can keep your Doctor, Plan, Gun, Freedom, period.

Now, for the fourth time, let's get back to Corvettes...

onthebottom

Never watch FOX TV, do however read the news once in a while.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...to-makers.html

Loan to Harley Davidson worked out quite well many years before, as did the rest of TARP (only loser investment was GM).

Tommy D

IBTL...... ok so some of us nailed Joe (me included) because we disagree with his political views but agreed with his views on Corvettes.

Over the years we usually beat the living hell out of any discussion and sometimes go a bit overboard. We all have our political leanings and maybe we are getting to the point whereas the "cheap shots" have now become political discussions. These discussions have no place here.

We all are members of the CF because we are "car guys" who happen to enjoy Corvettes. Apparently, Mr. Biden also enjoys Corvettes. In the spirit of all working together and exchanging ideas about Corvettes someone should invite him to become a member. Yup, we have all sorts of individuals here why not a politician too.

Ok enough of my rant........ now back to our regularly scheduled discussions about Corvettes

robertbruce

Mine too

jimb100

Republican's taking responsibility for their actions, like Wall Street, car company execs, all those CEOs who bribe congress to get corporate welfare?

Sin City

Joe is giving his favorite quotes that FDR had about the Corvette.