"Made in America"? really?
03-06-2014, 05:57 PM
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"Made in America"? really?
i read in another post that the corvette was "made in America", and that was one of the reasons he /she liked it. i have no facts, but given the many highly publicized relations with gm and china, id bet that at least 50% of the key parts are manufactured in china. anybody have any facts or see any info on this? also, think about it--you want to keep your costs down, where do you go for parts? im not faulting them for this, although it certainly does not serve to enhance the durability of the car in the long term.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
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03-06-2014, 06:14 PM
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How about "Assembled in America"?
03-06-2014, 06:22 PM
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i read in another post that the corvette was "made in America", and that was one of the reasons he /she liked it. i have no facts, but given the many highly publicized relations with gm and china, id bet that at least 50% of the key parts are manufactured in china. anybody have any facts or see any info on this? also, think about it--you want to keep your costs down, where do you go for parts? im not faulting them for this, although it certainly does not serve to enhance the durability of the car in the long term.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
If you'd look at the window sticker, you'd see that 75% of the parts are U.S./Canadian. The engine and transmission are made in the United States.
Go ahead and send my winnings to the NCM for the remediation of the big hole.
03-06-2014, 06:46 PM
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I did notice when changing out my splash guards with new GM parts that the original guards were made in the USA and the replacements were made in China. Go figure.
03-06-2014, 06:47 PM
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03-06-2014, 06:51 PM
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i read in another post that the corvette was "made in America", and that was one of the reasons he /she liked it. i have no facts, but given the many highly publicized relations with gm and china, id bet that at least 50% of the key parts are manufactured in china. anybody have any facts or see any info on this? also, think about it--you want to keep your costs down, where do you go for parts? im not faulting them for this, although it certainly does not serve to enhance the durability of the car in the long term.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
03-06-2014, 07:08 PM
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The profits stay here no trade imbalance.
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03-06-2014, 08:41 PM
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This is one of those subjects I could spend a lifetime discussing without any shot of agreement. I'll say this once and once only. I am in the IT Procurement business. It's what I do. If you think much of this stuff doesn't come from China you are living in a dream. I am the number 1 advocate of US Mfg. Without it we are dead, dead, dead. Get it? That said. For now we have decided to move this stuff around to get the best deals despite our workers unemployment, etc. OK, facts are facts. China has come a long way and their products are usually spec'd by the US company. If you want to buy a high quality carrying case with good zippers in China it's $10.00. If you want to buy it in the US it's ..... ooops. No one manufactures it here and no one can without at least a 3 year lead time and a $30M investment in a state of the art facility. And so the story goes. It's your job as an American buyer to stop bitching and do something, anything! Buy American if you can but pay more until we can turn the tide. Stop bitching about price increases on the Vette. It's a small price to pay. I recently offered one of my compatriots a deal. You set up a new facility and I will work for you for free for two years to make sure you succeed. In case you didn't get this turn already, I am not an assembler but rather a manufacturing engineer trained by no other than the great IBM before the world turned to profits before innovation and quality. Thanks for listening and thanks for not whining anymore.
03-06-2014, 09:04 PM
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03-06-2014, 09:17 PM
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Scraping the splitter.
03-06-2014, 09:40 PM
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03-06-2014, 10:20 PM
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This is one of those subjects I could spend a lifetime discussing without any shot of agreement. I'll say this once and once only. I am in the IT Procurement business. It's what I do. If you think much of this stuff doesn't come from China you are living in a dream. I am the number 1 advocate of US Mfg. Without it we are dead, dead, dead. Get it? That said. For now we have decided to move this stuff around to get the best deals despite our workers unemployment, etc. OK, facts are facts. China has come a long way and their products are usually spec'd by the US company. If you want to buy a high quality carrying case with good zippers in China it's $10.00. If you want to buy it in the US it's ..... ooops. No one manufactures it here and no one can without at least a 3 year lead time and a $30M investment in a state of the art facility. And so the story goes. It's your job as an American buyer to stop bitching and do something, anything! Buy American if you can but pay more until we can turn the tide. Stop bitching about price increases on the Vette. It's a small price to pay. I recently offered one of my compatriots a deal. You set up a new facility and I will work for you for free for two years to make sure you succeed. In case you didn't get this turn already, I am not an assembler but rather a manufacturing engineer trained by no other than the great IBM before the world turned to profits before innovation and quality. Thanks for listening and thanks for not whining anymore.
So how do you round up all the horses and get them back in the corral? Labor costs are sky high in this country. Thus, companies have to pay for not only the labor costs...but retirement costs. And where has it gotten us? Just read some of the posts on this one forum.... The mindset is: Greed is a good thing!! Labor costs, red tape, corporate taxes, etc. necessitate all US companies, like GM, try through any means possible, to do whatever they can to increase their profit margins.
Unfortunately, the best years of this Country are far behind us....
Not trying to hijack the thread....just felt the need to respond.
03-06-2014, 10:46 PM
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i read in another post that the corvette was "made in NORTH America", and that was one of the reasons he /she liked it. i have no facts, but given the many highly publicized relations with gm and china, id bet that at least 50% of the key parts are manufactured in china. anybody have any facts or see any info on this? also, think about it--you want to keep your costs down, where do you go for parts? im not faulting them for this, although it certainly does not serve to enhance the durability of the car in the long term.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
03-06-2014, 10:50 PM
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i read in another post that the corvette was "made in America", and that was one of the reasons he /she liked it. i have no facts, but given the many highly publicized relations with gm and china, id bet that at least 50% of the key parts are manufactured in china. anybody have any facts or see any info on this? also, think about it--you want to keep your costs down, where do you go for parts? im not faulting them for this, although it certainly does not serve to enhance the durability of the car in the long term.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
hmmm....buy anything recently from china that actually worked? what was the first major problem gm had to deal with? the reprogramming of the communications center.
Apple has what, $50 Billion, maybe $100 Billion in the Bank?
Maybe they should buy GM, then 100% of your Corvette will be built in China and will work flawlessly.
As a side note, my Clutch Master Cylinder went out last week. Pedal went to the floor and didn't come back up. Needless to say, GM was on the case as soon as the Dealer called them. First one to fail as far as I know. They overnighted a new one and the Dealer sent the Unit back to Detroit for the Engineers to take a look at. To paraphrase a certain Politician, "It was a big f'ing Deal".
I wonder where the Supplier makes those? Things break, stuff happens and the Warranty works. Don't care where they get the parts, as long as they are high quality and work.
The Dealer and GM took good care of me, and I didn't even buy the Car from that Dealer. I'm buying Donuts for the entire Service Department tomorrow morning as a small Thank You.
Didn't we just have a Thread here about an Employee of an American Parts Supplier screwing up Corvette Parts because he is envious of us "rich" people? It isn't where things are made, it's the pride of the person making those things.
I think a new Honda Accord is 100% American Made. How Ironic.