My C7 does not have a 6.2 engine, engines are measured in cubic inches
04-08-2014, 12:01 PM
#42
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I remember when they started this liter nonsense in the mid 60s and I never liked it. Numbers like 265, 283, 327, 427 all mean something to me. She's real fine my 409 just would not sound right if it were She's real fine my 6.7023.
Liters are less precise, when anyone asks I tell them I have a 376 engine. A 6.2L = 378.35in³ and a 6.1L = 372.24in³ which leaves a big gap between 6.1 & 6.2. Using liters bothers me because I am old school / old fashioned and it is not as precise.
If anyone asks you tell them it is a 376.
Rant off
Liters are less precise, when anyone asks I tell them I have a 376 engine. A 6.2L = 378.35in³ and a 6.1L = 372.24in³ which leaves a big gap between 6.1 & 6.2. Using liters bothers me because I am old school / old fashioned and it is not as precise.
If anyone asks you tell them it is a 376.
Rant off
04-08-2014, 12:04 PM
#43
Le Mans Master
I remember when they started this liter nonsense in the mid 60s and I never liked it. Numbers like 265, 283, 327, 427 all mean something to me. She's real fine my 409 just would not sound right if it were She's real fine my 6.7023.
Liters are less precise, when anyone asks I tell them I have a 376 engine. A 6.2L = 378.35in³ and a 6.1L = 372.24in³ which leaves a big gap between 6.1 & 6.2. Using liters bothers me because I am old school / old fashioned and it is not as precise.
If anyone asks you tell them it is a 376.
Rant off
Liters are less precise, when anyone asks I tell them I have a 376 engine. A 6.2L = 378.35in³ and a 6.1L = 372.24in³ which leaves a big gap between 6.1 & 6.2. Using liters bothers me because I am old school / old fashioned and it is not as precise.
If anyone asks you tell them it is a 376.
Rant off
Slow day today? 
04-08-2014, 01:05 PM
#45
Burning Brakes
Easy-peasy. Just change time units also to a basis of ten! Surprised our "enlightened" cousins across the pond haven't done that one yet.
04-08-2014, 01:33 PM
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The first car I bought was a 1971 Chevrolet Nova in 1976, after I graduated from HS. It had 139,320 KM on the odometer, and had one feisty 4.1 L straight six in it. I drove it an additional 320,000 KM, then gave it to my brother-in-law with 459,320 KM on it.
Pretty impressive, huh?
Pretty impressive, huh?
04-08-2014, 01:52 PM
#48
Burning Brakes
Don't remember the last time I bought a quart of soda pop or a quart of whisky. All I see these days are one liter or 750 milliliter containers.Just a matter of time before 2 Ag's buds on the force begin writing speeding tickets in kilometers per hour.
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04-08-2014, 02:03 PM
#49
I have been a buffoon on this forum for over 10 years, far longer than you have been a member. I have owned and driven Corvettes for almost 50 years and I will continue to drive corvettes till they plant me in the ground and I don't need a n00b telling me what I am allowed to post.
You can post whatever you'd like, but if it's retarded, then you're gonna get teased.
Lol @ a 70+ yr old using the term n00b.
04-08-2014, 02:15 PM
#50
Le Mans Master
04-08-2014, 02:22 PM
#51
Race Director
Not to create a controversy, and being an old timer, I also think in US units. However we are the last country in the world not to use metric (now called SI!) In fact you can’t work on your Vette without metric tools. I have been on our tech societies metric standards committee since the early 1970’s! We publish things like how to properly convert etc., like 409 is 6.70 liters (only use enough digits to represent intended accuracy etc!)
It might be of interest that the US was the promoter of the 10 based measurement system from the 1780’s! This is some history:
In 1782 Thomas Jefferson suggested the messy currency situation in the US needed to be fixed. We were using British Pounds, Dutch Guilders and Spanish Pieces of Eight! He proposed the base 10 currency system we use today.
Jefferson and Ben Franklin strongly supported a base 10 measurement system that was being developed in France (now called SI.)
In 1790 George Washington in his First Congressional address said ”Uniformity of currency, weights and measures is of great importance.” Congress only supported currency! (Follow the money. Money is mostly what the bankers cared about!)
Typical of the US Congress they left us with our messy measurement system!
It might be of interest that the US was the promoter of the 10 based measurement system from the 1780’s! This is some history:
In 1782 Thomas Jefferson suggested the messy currency situation in the US needed to be fixed. We were using British Pounds, Dutch Guilders and Spanish Pieces of Eight! He proposed the base 10 currency system we use today.
Jefferson and Ben Franklin strongly supported a base 10 measurement system that was being developed in France (now called SI.)
In 1790 George Washington in his First Congressional address said ”Uniformity of currency, weights and measures is of great importance.” Congress only supported currency! (Follow the money. Money is mostly what the bankers cared about!)
Typical of the US Congress they left us with our messy measurement system!
The United States should have gone total metric years ago. Doesn't make any sense not to.
04-08-2014, 03:42 PM
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I think the big conversion setback occurred in the mid 1970’s. I recall because my group was also responsible for developing cost reduction projects and we switched from the industry standard 35 lb welding wire package to 44 pounds (20 kg.) Users benefited needing fewer changes and we benefited getting more wire on a spool. The US had already switched a bottle of whiskey and soda to liters. Some highway signs were in both miles and km. At the same time as we switched our wire package, some states switched the gas pumps to liters! There was a revolt! Folks bought a bottle of whisky and didn’t much care what the label read, but gas was bought by the gallon!! In fact, I recall one of our region sales manager accusing us of being communists and supporting chlorine in water!! Decided to re-label the wire boxes and instead of a big 40 kg (small 44 pounds) the box read 44 pounds (small 20 kg!) That company still has boxes labeled 44 lbs today, 40 years later!
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04-08-2014, 04:30 PM
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What bothers me is when someone says they have the new 327 in their silverado pickup, the 5.3 is technically 325ci with a 3.779x3.622 bore and stroke...not even close to being the same as the original 4x3.25
04-08-2014, 06:41 PM
#55
Burning Brakes
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/oct/01/news/mn-17288
Turns out even rocket scientists can be dumb!
04-08-2014, 06:48 PM
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04-08-2014, 08:07 PM
#57
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You think the switch to "little tree" is painful. I can't wait when the US changes from Fahrenheit to Celsius or lb to kg. These two are really painful.
But the big one mph to kph. To this day, I never got use to this mostly because 60 mph=1 minute per mile. This works nicely. But 100kph doesn't play nicely with 1 minute.
The other thing is fuel consumption, mpg is easy. But for some reason, in metric, they insist on liters/100km. This is dumb. So if you know you have say, 8 liters at 10.3liters/100km. Now how far can you go? Dig out your calc. or switch the display to range if you can find it.
But the big one mph to kph. To this day, I never got use to this mostly because 60 mph=1 minute per mile. This works nicely. But 100kph doesn't play nicely with 1 minute.
The other thing is fuel consumption, mpg is easy. But for some reason, in metric, they insist on liters/100km. This is dumb. So if you know you have say, 8 liters at 10.3liters/100km. Now how far can you go? Dig out your calc. or switch the display to range if you can find it.
It least we'd all get better gas mileage to the Imperial gallon!!!
04-08-2014, 08:49 PM
#58
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The US is the only industrialized country in the world still using the English system of measurement. Even the English have abandoned the system they created.
If you intend to wrench on your Vette and you don't possess metric tools your not going to get much done.
Several years ago a group of us were discussing maximum allowable engine oil temperature with a GM power train engineer. We queried the engineer as to what max. temp. was in Fahrenheit. He allowed he didn't know as he only worked in Celsius. Someone in the group used their smart phone to convert Fahrenheit to Celsius. The engineer was then able to tell us the oil temp. was in limits...barely.
If you intend to wrench on your Vette and you don't possess metric tools your not going to get much done.
Several years ago a group of us were discussing maximum allowable engine oil temperature with a GM power train engineer. We queried the engineer as to what max. temp. was in Fahrenheit. He allowed he didn't know as he only worked in Celsius. Someone in the group used their smart phone to convert Fahrenheit to Celsius. The engineer was then able to tell us the oil temp. was in limits...barely.
04-08-2014, 08:50 PM
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04-08-2014, 09:03 PM
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