Sad day for VIN 378 - GM Lemon Law Buy Back
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is the last 3 digits of your VIN# correlate with the number of the build? Mine is 587 so is my car the 587th car o be built. Sorry, I should know this but I don’t.
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Of your year. Every year starts over . This does not include special Production runs, which, usually have their own number sequence.
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Exactly. I believe the first of the 6 numbers designates the production run (limited Laguna edition, VIN choice option, etc), but I may have heard that incorrectly.
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The OP is a friend of mine and he agonized over whether to Lemon Law the car or not. We had a lot of conversations about it. He went back and forth for several months. He ordered the FI and LT's shortly after the car was in the dealer for a week or so and was returned to him with promises that all is good now. Unfortunately, that was not the car's last stay at the dealership. Knowing he was going to lose his warranty after the FI install, he didn't want to risk it on a car that was already showing torque tube and other issues.
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Your speculation is WAY off mark.
The OP is a friend of mine and he agonized over whether to Lemon Law the car or not. We had a lot of conversations about it. He went back and forth for several months. He ordered the FI and LT's shortly after the car was in the dealer for a week or so and was returned to him with promises that all is good now. Unfortunately, that was not the car's last stay at the dealership. Knowing he was going to lose his warranty after the FI install, he didn't want to risk it on a car that was already showing torque tube and other issues.
The OP is a friend of mine and he agonized over whether to Lemon Law the car or not. We had a lot of conversations about it. He went back and forth for several months. He ordered the FI and LT's shortly after the car was in the dealer for a week or so and was returned to him with promises that all is good now. Unfortunately, that was not the car's last stay at the dealership. Knowing he was going to lose his warranty after the FI install, he didn't want to risk it on a car that was already showing torque tube and other issues.
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Car still had issues when I turned it in. Hope GM fixes the issues for the next buyer!
Very tough, with the $4K price increase and dealers not wanting to discount a Z51 coupe, It was a hard choice to make. I got $1,000 Private offer as well as $2k off MSRP so basically a new Z51 coupe would cost me $7k more than the one I had.
In the end since I wanted to mod the car, I felt as this car wouldn't take the upgrades without issues. As mentioned before, my C6 had close to 600RWHP with zero issues, not once did I feel like anything was going to break but yet in stock form I felt as the C7 was going to break!
In the end, GM Realized my concerns and the issues I had and purchased the car back. They know I've been a very loyal GM customer and up until the C7 went back had 4 GM vehicles in my garage.
Your speculation is WAY off mark.
The OP is a friend of mine and he agonized over whether to Lemon Law the car or not. We had a lot of conversations about it. He went back and forth for several months. He ordered the FI and LT's shortly after the car was in the dealer for a week or so and was returned to him with promises that all is good now. Unfortunately, that was not the car's last stay at the dealership. Knowing he was going to lose his warranty after the FI install, he didn't want to risk it on a car that was already showing torque tube and other issues.
The OP is a friend of mine and he agonized over whether to Lemon Law the car or not. We had a lot of conversations about it. He went back and forth for several months. He ordered the FI and LT's shortly after the car was in the dealer for a week or so and was returned to him with promises that all is good now. Unfortunately, that was not the car's last stay at the dealership. Knowing he was going to lose his warranty after the FI install, he didn't want to risk it on a car that was already showing torque tube and other issues.
Very tough, with the $4K price increase and dealers not wanting to discount a Z51 coupe, It was a hard choice to make. I got $1,000 Private offer as well as $2k off MSRP so basically a new Z51 coupe would cost me $7k more than the one I had.
In the end since I wanted to mod the car, I felt as this car wouldn't take the upgrades without issues. As mentioned before, my C6 had close to 600RWHP with zero issues, not once did I feel like anything was going to break but yet in stock form I felt as the C7 was going to break!
In the end, GM Realized my concerns and the issues I had and purchased the car back. They know I've been a very loyal GM customer and up until the C7 went back had 4 GM vehicles in my garage.
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I gave back to the dealer my 458 spider because the AC sucked. It too was considered "normal". It is -- it just made the car unbearable to use.
They turned around and sold it for a 60 grand profit in a week -- ironically to some guy now sweating off his underwear in Texas.
I know what you mean. But there's a point of complaining and a point of whining. The orangepeel on my C7 I would view as not just bad but horrific. But I wouldn't throw it into my list of reasons to ask GM to take the car back.
Why? Because you can see the orangepeel before you sign the dotted line. If you can see the defect before buying it, it's kinda hard to believe it's their fault you accepted the car.
However the other reasons, especially the rear end issue, I have said I agree with and continue to do so.
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I gave back to the dealer my 458 spider because the AC sucked. It too was considered "normal". It is -- it just made the car unbearable to use.
They turned around and sold it for a 60 grand profit in a week -- ironically to some guy now sweating off his underwear in Texas.
I know what you mean. But there's a point of complaining and a point of whining. The orangepeel on my C7 I would view as not just bad but horrific. But I wouldn't throw it into my list of reasons to ask GM to take the car back.
Why? Because you can see the orangepeel before you sign the dotted line. If you can see the defect before buying it, it's kinda hard to believe it's their fault you accepted the car.
However the other reasons, especially the rear end issue, I have said I agree with and continue to do so.
They turned around and sold it for a 60 grand profit in a week -- ironically to some guy now sweating off his underwear in Texas.
I know what you mean. But there's a point of complaining and a point of whining. The orangepeel on my C7 I would view as not just bad but horrific. But I wouldn't throw it into my list of reasons to ask GM to take the car back.
Why? Because you can see the orangepeel before you sign the dotted line. If you can see the defect before buying it, it's kinda hard to believe it's their fault you accepted the car.
However the other reasons, especially the rear end issue, I have said I agree with and continue to do so.
I was point out that GM said orange peel was normal and part of the design. Orange Peel in that one section would easily been removed, it was just on the lower panels of the front fenders.
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sounds like this car was a structured legal buyback and will be branded and show up at Manheim auction. sometimes dealers do a "buyback" but really just trade for another car and the mfr eats some money to avoid a branded title.
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Most state lemon laws give that an auto maker should either discount a consumer's cash and claim back the defective vehicle or put back the vehicle. If you suspect that you may suffer a viable new lemon vehicle, then you should get hold of an lawyer as soon as possible.
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If anyone understands what this means, please explain it in clear English.
Last edited by Steve Garrett; 10-25-2014 at 04:58 PM.
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Varies by state, If a mfr makes a offer to take a person out of the car before he files for lemon law, either giving his money back or putting him in another car, the title is not "branded". I did hundreds of them over 20 years with car mfrs as a rep. Only once a customer files lemon law and the court decides in favor of the owner does the title get branded.
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Did it on my 08 and got a 09 that was a good corvette. I hope this 15 well be a good one again, hate going in for repairs on a new car. I hear that the 15's with the A8 may have transmission problems, cracks and heat.
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Lemon law cars are interesting things. One of the best cars I ever owned was an 86 GM Buy Back. The previous owner had a legitimate gripe as the car had issues with the antitheft system that kept it from reliability starting. After I purchased the car at an auction I took it to the dealer and told them to take their time fixing the intermittent issue for a week or so. I told them if they didn't have it fixed by then I would fix it. The Service Advisor would call me everyday with the latest news on what had happened and how large the bill had become. After a week he called and said GM had developed a fix and my car would be the first one in the country to get it. All charges had gone to zero. I never had another issue with the car not starting until I lost the key in a Lake. Had that car for 10 more years and it was rock solid the rest of the time.
As for this owner I wouldn't count warped brake rotors or squeaky brakes as an issue. There are no such things as warped rotors (read the StopTech white paper) and good brakes squeak and sometimes squeal like hell.
Bill
As for this owner I wouldn't count warped brake rotors or squeaky brakes as an issue. There are no such things as warped rotors (read the StopTech white paper) and good brakes squeak and sometimes squeal like hell.
Bill
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Lemon law cars are interesting things. One of the best cars I ever owned was an 86 GM Buy Back. The previous owner had a legitimate gripe as the car had issues with the antitheft system that kept it from reliability starting. After I purchased the car at an auction I took it to the dealer and told them to take their time fixing the intermittent issue for a week or so. I told them if they didn't have it fixed by then I would fix it. The Service Advisor would call me everyday with the latest news on what had happened and how large the bill had become. After a week he called and said GM had developed a fix and my car would be the first one in the country to get it. All charges had gone to zero. I never had another issue with the car not starting until I lost the key in a Lake. Had that car for 10 more years and it was rock solid the rest of the time.
As for this owner I wouldn't count warped brake rotors or squeaky brakes as an issue. There are no such things as warped rotors (read the StopTech white paper) and good brakes squeak and sometimes squeal like hell.
Bill
As for this owner I wouldn't count warped brake rotors or squeaky brakes as an issue. There are no such things as warped rotors (read the StopTech white paper) and good brakes squeak and sometimes squeal like hell.
Bill
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