2015 GMS/Supplier Pricing
06-26-2014, 02:51 PM
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Melting Slicks
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2015 GMS/Supplier Pricing
Does anyone know if the 2015 C7 qualifies for GMS or Supplier pricing at the present time? I know it was available on the 2014's effective in March but haven't seen any confirmation if it is currently on the 15's.
06-26-2014, 02:58 PM
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St. Jude Donor '08
I will know pretty quickly because I am almost ready to pull the trigger on my order and I qualify for Suppliier Pricing.
06-26-2014, 03:14 PM
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The Les Stanford dealership has confirmed that they will accept Supplier on 2015's already. That is the only one I've personally seen come out and say it so far.
06-26-2014, 03:37 PM
#5
Melting Slicks
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That's good news since I qualify for GMS or employee pricing. If one dealer can offer it then it means that GM has issued the discounts for dealers who wish to participate. My dealer participates.....but I forgot to ask them when I ordered my 2015 this morning.
06-26-2014, 04:32 PM
#6
Stanford has not extended the program to include employee pricing, to my knowledge. Supplier is invoice plus and employee is invoice minus. The dealer receives a specific dollar amount for employee priced sales; I have yet to see they receive anything for supplier priced sales, but they do make a profit on each supplier priced sale, whether getting anything additional from Chevy or not.
My point: a dealer can use the supplier price as a guide to pricing whether the program is in effect or not and still make a profit. The same is not true for employee priced sales.
I have read that a dealer is reimbursed for the advertising charge when doing an actual supplier priced delivery and that could be true. The written rules for employee pricing state clearly that the program may not be in effect during inventory build up.
So a dealer may do deliveries based on program pricing whether in effect or not but will not receive the incentive to do those if the program is not in effect when the unit is delivered but will make a profit on a supplier priced delivery and suffer a loss on an employee priced delivery when doing so.
Now it is true that once a vehicle line is included in a pricing program it will continue from model year to model year, but for the inventory build up clause.
Laborsmith
My point: a dealer can use the supplier price as a guide to pricing whether the program is in effect or not and still make a profit. The same is not true for employee priced sales.
I have read that a dealer is reimbursed for the advertising charge when doing an actual supplier priced delivery and that could be true. The written rules for employee pricing state clearly that the program may not be in effect during inventory build up.
So a dealer may do deliveries based on program pricing whether in effect or not but will not receive the incentive to do those if the program is not in effect when the unit is delivered but will make a profit on a supplier priced delivery and suffer a loss on an employee priced delivery when doing so.
Now it is true that once a vehicle line is included in a pricing program it will continue from model year to model year, but for the inventory build up clause.
Laborsmith
06-26-2014, 04:49 PM
#7
Melting Slicks
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Stanford has not extended the program to include employee pricing, to my knowledge. Supplier is invoice plus and employee is invoice minus. The dealer receives a specific dollar amount for employee priced sales; I have yet to see they receive anything for supplier priced sales, but they do make a profit on each supplier priced sale, whether getting anything additional from Chevy or not.
My point: a dealer can use the supplier price as a guide to pricing whether the program is in effect or not and still make a profit. The same is not true for employee priced sales.
I have read that a dealer is reimbursed for the advertising charge when doing an actual supplier priced delivery and that could be true. The written rules for employee pricing state clearly that the program may not be in effect during inventory build up.
So a dealer may do deliveries based on program pricing whether in effect or not but will not receive the incentive to do those if the program is not in effect when the unit is delivered but will make a profit on a supplier priced delivery and suffer a loss on an employee priced delivery when doing so.
Now it is true that once a vehicle line is included in a pricing program it will continue from model year to model year, but for the inventory build up clause.
Laborsmith
My point: a dealer can use the supplier price as a guide to pricing whether the program is in effect or not and still make a profit. The same is not true for employee priced sales.
I have read that a dealer is reimbursed for the advertising charge when doing an actual supplier priced delivery and that could be true. The written rules for employee pricing state clearly that the program may not be in effect during inventory build up.
So a dealer may do deliveries based on program pricing whether in effect or not but will not receive the incentive to do those if the program is not in effect when the unit is delivered but will make a profit on a supplier priced delivery and suffer a loss on an employee priced delivery when doing so.
Now it is true that once a vehicle line is included in a pricing program it will continue from model year to model year, but for the inventory build up clause.
Laborsmith
06-26-2014, 05:04 PM
#8
Matches my experience with the simple caveat that initial start ups lag before employee pricing is allowed. All that means is people who buy under these programs every year have to wait a few weeks before buying. 99% of the time the lag is not noticed: other than the Corvette how many Chevy car lines have people standing in line to do their own retail sold order? Sure the Camaro attracts some, and heavy duty trucks get a lot (note trucks not cars) but the Vette gets more than all other car lines combined AND fewer Vettes are assembled every year than any other Chevy car line.
And this is complicated because Chevy allows dealers to pick and choose whether to accept program pricing for the Corvette; all other Chevys, if the dealer accepts program pricing for one line it must for all other Chevys (except the Corvette).
So your salesperson is correct, based on what I have observed.
Laborsmith
And this is complicated because Chevy allows dealers to pick and choose whether to accept program pricing for the Corvette; all other Chevys, if the dealer accepts program pricing for one line it must for all other Chevys (except the Corvette).
So your salesperson is correct, based on what I have observed.
Laborsmith
06-26-2014, 05:17 PM
#9
Melting Slicks
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Matches my experience with the simple caveat that initial start ups lag before employee pricing is allowed. All that means is people who buy under these programs every year have to wait a few weeks before buying. 99% of the time the lag is not noticed: other than the Corvette how many Chevy car lines have people standing in line to do their own retail sold order? Sure the Camaro attracts some, and heavy duty trucks get a lot (note trucks not cars) but the Vette gets more than all other car lines combined AND fewer Vettes are assembled every year than any other Chevy car line.
And this is complicated because Chevy allows dealers to pick and choose whether to accept program pricing for the Corvette; all other Chevys, if the dealer accepts program pricing for one line it must for all other Chevys (except the Corvette).
So your salesperson is correct, based on what I have observed.
Laborsmith
And this is complicated because Chevy allows dealers to pick and choose whether to accept program pricing for the Corvette; all other Chevys, if the dealer accepts program pricing for one line it must for all other Chevys (except the Corvette).
So your salesperson is correct, based on what I have observed.
Laborsmith
06-26-2014, 05:59 PM
#10
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
I don't know what constitutes an adequate number of inventory. But a quick search on Autotrader shows approx. 1,500 2014 new C7's for sale. While that is not many across the nation I am sure there are a lot of cars sitting on lots that are not advertised on Autotrader. Also, I would hope and think, for my own selfish reasons, that inventory may continue to build since they will be produced through August 8. I also would think that build up of inventory could swell as we get closer to people waiting for a 2015. Any merit to my thoughts as it relates to triggering the inventory build up clause?????
06-26-2014, 07:11 PM
#11
Apples and oranges. 2014 inventory at the end of a model year can not be compared to 2015 inventory at the beginning of its model year.
Does GM officially announce a date that employee pricing is in effect? It may but if it does not in a public manner. I do not recall seeing an "official" announcement, ever. Dealers may announce they are accepting employee pricing and do so announce while there is no announcement.
A complicating factor is no downtime between going from one model year to the next. In the case of this Corvette it is understandable but per my memory is not normal.
And if GMS is not there and you still want the order, do a family and friend (if available or pricing based on it); there is a couple of thousand dollar difference, true, but you get what you want and a good deal to boot.
Laborsmith
Does GM officially announce a date that employee pricing is in effect? It may but if it does not in a public manner. I do not recall seeing an "official" announcement, ever. Dealers may announce they are accepting employee pricing and do so announce while there is no announcement.
A complicating factor is no downtime between going from one model year to the next. In the case of this Corvette it is understandable but per my memory is not normal.
And if GMS is not there and you still want the order, do a family and friend (if available or pricing based on it); there is a couple of thousand dollar difference, true, but you get what you want and a good deal to boot.
Laborsmith
06-26-2014, 10:12 PM
#13
Melting Slicks
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They can if they choose!
https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/i...le-eligibility
https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/i...le-eligibility
06-27-2014, 09:22 AM
#15
Burning Brakes
06-27-2014, 09:47 AM
#16
Melting Slicks
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06-27-2014, 09:55 AM
#17
Melting Slicks
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06-27-2014, 03:12 PM
#18
But the 2015 Camaro is in production now, so that might mean something.
As is the Volt, Malibu and Impala.
I have not been following the Camaro, but if memory serves this is the last model year for the Fifth Generation.
Laborsmith
As is the Volt, Malibu and Impala.
I have not been following the Camaro, but if memory serves this is the last model year for the Fifth Generation.
Laborsmith
06-28-2014, 10:26 AM
#19
Just to dispel any misconceptions, the dealer nets the exact same profit whether a customer buys using GMS (Employee) or GMU (Supplier). This is handled via incentives and are clearly called out on the invoice. Here are the numbers for my car.
EMPLOY: 58530.73
SUPPLR: 60921.80
EMPINC: 3716.53
SUPINC: 1325.46
If you do the math you see that 58530.73 + 3716.53 = 60921.80 + 1325.46 = 62247.26
EMPINC or SUPINC are credited to the dealers account when the employee or supplier authorization number is accepted.
Also, let history be your guide here. Once a model has been included in the program it has never been removed until that generation is replaced. History will show that the base and Z51 will remain on the program until the C7 run is built out. What you will undoubtedly see is an exclusion for the Z06 in 2015.
EMPLOY: 58530.73
SUPPLR: 60921.80
EMPINC: 3716.53
SUPINC: 1325.46
If you do the math you see that 58530.73 + 3716.53 = 60921.80 + 1325.46 = 62247.26
EMPINC or SUPINC are credited to the dealers account when the employee or supplier authorization number is accepted.
Also, let history be your guide here. Once a model has been included in the program it has never been removed until that generation is replaced. History will show that the base and Z51 will remain on the program until the C7 run is built out. What you will undoubtedly see is an exclusion for the Z06 in 2015.
06-28-2014, 10:34 AM
#20
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Just to dispel any misconceptions, the dealer nets the exact same profit whether a customer buys using GMS (Employee) or GMU (Supplier). This is handled via incentives and are clearly called out on the invoice. Here are the numbers for my car.
EMPLOY: 58530.73
SUPPLR: 60921.80
EMPINC: 3716.53
SUPINC: 1325.46
If you do the math you see that 58530.73 + 3716.53 = 60921.80 + 1325.46 = 62247.26
EMPINC or SUPINC are credited to the dealers account when the employee or supplier authorization number is accepted.
Also, let history be your guide here. Once a model has been included in the program it has never been removed until that generation is replaced. History will show that the base and Z51 will remain on the program until the C7 run is built out. What you will undoubtedly see is an exclusion for the Z06 in 2015.
EMPLOY: 58530.73
SUPPLR: 60921.80
EMPINC: 3716.53
SUPINC: 1325.46
If you do the math you see that 58530.73 + 3716.53 = 60921.80 + 1325.46 = 62247.26
EMPINC or SUPINC are credited to the dealers account when the employee or supplier authorization number is accepted.
Also, let history be your guide here. Once a model has been included in the program it has never been removed until that generation is replaced. History will show that the base and Z51 will remain on the program until the C7 run is built out. What you will undoubtedly see is an exclusion for the Z06 in 2015.
