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Parking brake safety issue !!!

Old 08-29-2014, 07:58 PM
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Anybody notice the parking brake will release by merely taping the accelerator ????

You may have to put the car into gear ( 7 speed ) and back into neutral and then blip the accelerator and the parking brake releases.

Very odd and strange. My VIN is low 600s so maybe this has been corrected in later builds.

Something tells me it was not engineered to do this.

Let me know if anyone else has seen this.
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14 or 15?
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Originally Posted by Translator
14 or 15?
Should have mentioned, 2014.
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I don't think it disengages by tapping the throttle in neutral. It disengages when it senses force, like trying to drive off with it still on.
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Originally Posted by Mdm23
I don't think it disengages by tapping the throttle in neutral. It disengages when it senses force, like trying to drive off with it still on.
My car release the brake with the car in neutral on a level surface by just tapping the accelerator.

Give it a try.
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Mine does not....... it needs some force applied to it. Does not disengage by tapping the throttle. I'd have that checked.

My complaint with the parking brake is it is no longer an emergency brake. I liked the comfort that worse case situation I could active the parking brake and maybe stop the car. Can't do that with the C7.
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Normal. I've read something in my manual.
Can't give page #.....sorry. I'd have to go next door in rain, take of the cover.....
ect. If brake is engaged, steeping on accelerator will dis-engage.
Kind of like a fail safe.
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Originally Posted by Greg00Coupe
Mine does not....... it needs some force applied to it. Does not disengage by tapping the throttle. I'd have that checked.

My complaint with the parking brake is it is no longer an emergency brake. I liked the comfort that worse case situation I could active the parking brake and maybe stop the car. Can't do that with the C7.
Sure you can. It's spelled out for you in the manual. If you need to use it as an emergency brake while driving, lift and hold the switch up and it will engage and slow down the car.
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
Sure you can. It's spelled out for you in the manual. If you need to use it as an emergency brake while driving, lift and hold the switch up and it will engage and slow down the car.
I have wondered about this myself (having been a passenger in a car whose brakes failed).

Is is controllable like you can do with a lever or a pedal? Seems like it's on or off because it's electronic--nothing in between.
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Originally Posted by VNAMVET
Normal. I've read something in my manual.
Can't give page #.....sorry. I'd have to go next door in rain, take of the cover.....
ect. If brake is engaged, steeping on accelerator will dis-engage.
Kind of like a fail safe.
The manual mentions the brake will automatically release if an attempt is made to drive away. Mine releases with the car in neutral. I doubt it was designed to do this.

If you are sitting on an incline with the parking brake set and bump the accelerator and the car starts to roll away it can catch you a little off guard.

I believe it will only do this if you put the car into gear and then back into neutral.
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Originally Posted by owc6
I have wondered about this myself (having been a passenger in a car whose brakes failed).

Is is controllable like you can do with a lever or a pedal? Seems like it's on or off because it's electronic--nothing in between.
Yes. It won't engage at speed unless you lift and hold it though. If you just flip the switch up once like you do when parked, nothing would happen. Holding it up tells the cars it's an emergency and it will override the control and engage the brake.
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Originally Posted by *C7*
The manual mentions the brake will automatically release if an attempt is made to drive away. Mine releases with the car in neutral. I doubt it was designed to do this.

If you are sitting on an incline with the parking brake set and bump the accelerator and the car starts to roll away it can catch you a little off guard.

I believe it will only do this if you put the car into gear and then back into neutral.
Auto or manual?
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
Yes. It won't engage at speed unless you lift and hold it though. If you just flip the switch up once like you do when parked, nothing would happen. Holding it up tells the cars it's an emergency and it will override the control and engage the brake.
Is it controllable? Or all on, at this point?
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The parking brake is designed to release when you apply the throttle in either forward or reverse gear. That is so you don't damage the brake attempting to pull away and forgetting to release the brake.

It is a parking brake, not an emergency brake. Since it is electric, they can trigger it if a load is applied in gear. You need to have the engine running and have it in gear and start to let the clutch out and load the brake in a M7 in order to have it release.
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Originally Posted by Mdm23
I don't think it disengages by tapping the throttle in neutral. It disengages when it senses force, like trying to drive off with it still on.
when you release the clutch......
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Originally Posted by owc6
Is it controllable? Or all on, at this point?
Not completely sure. My dealer said it's smart enough to not lock up the rear wheels but it's something I'm not willing to test .
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Originally Posted by Mdm23
I don't think it disengages by tapping the throttle in neutral. It disengages when it senses force, like trying to drive off with it still on.

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Originally Posted by talon90
The parking brake is designed to release when you apply the throttle in either forward or reverse gear. That is so you don't damage the brake attempting to pull away and forgetting to release the brake.

It is a parking brake, not an emergency brake. Since it is electric, they can trigger it if a load is applied in gear. You need to have the engine running and have it in gear and start to let the clutch out and load the brake in a M7 in order to have it release.



Talon, just to be clear. My parking brake will release with the manual trans. in NEUTRAL if you bump or blip the throttle. I believe you must first put the car in gear and then back into neutral. Also it will not release if you have the drivers door open or if the hatch is not fully closed.

I believe once you put it into gear the car goes into a "car in gear mode" and the clutch is fully engaged so when you blip the throttle in NEUTRAL the brake releases.

Maybe someone with a low VIN number can try this.
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Originally Posted by *C7*
Talon, just to be clear. My parking brake will release with the manual trans. in NEUTRAL if you bump or blip the throttle. I believe you must first put the car in gear and then back into neutral. Also it will not release if you have the drivers door open or if the hatch is not fully closed.

I believe once you put it into gear the car goes into a "car in gear mode" and the clutch is fully engaged so when you blip the throttle in NEUTRAL the brake releases.

Maybe someone with a low VIN number can try this.
I just tried this, and my car does not release the brake unless the switch is actuated with the brake pedal depressed, or when a gear is engaged and the car starts to move. VIN 2098 2014 M7 (various software updates applied)
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The electronic parking brake becomes your emergency brake when you lift and hold the brake control switch in the up position.

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