GTJim

What I want to know is how the hell do you forget to connect a parking brake cable

Tbong

The assumption is GM is telling the truth. Their track record has not be exactly honorable when it comes to issuing statements. One of my local Dealers GM told me the ignition issues were caused by "girls putting too much stuff on their keychains" as if Ford Dodge Honda Toyota drivers don't have heavy keychains with stuff hanging off them...

"Blame the customer" is what I heard. Personally I wish another carmaker made the Corvette. I still want one but I despise GM as a company and don't hide it.

C7BigTime

I worked as a supplier to the automotive industry and I can tell you that for any component that is changed on a car, there are significant testing cycles for reliability that must take place. Heat/cold cycles, thermal shock cycles, on/off cycles, impact cycles, atmospheric density cycles, water/fuel/oil/chemical resistance cycles, voltage variance and electrostatic shock cycles, etc. The list can be endless and these cycles can be days or weeks for any particular one. Also the requirements for compliance require the component to be better than 99.997% reliable. If it is a sub-component of a larger group, then the sub is tested then the assembly group is tested. Even with all the testing and all the statistics gathered it only enables the manufacturer to take an educated guess because at some point in time, some percentage of any component can and will fail before it's time. For NASA on any particular shuttle mission a 99.997% quality level still provided a window where up to 27,000 components could fail. Let these talented engineers figure out what needs to be done to take care of the problem. I will not let these events hamper my C7 driving experience one bit.

Algiers

Mine is at the courtesy dealership but I'm out of town and can't pick it up. I'm told that there is no hold on it and it's released for pick up. My vin isn't on the list and is a fairly early one. 1295.

I just hope nothing changes before I get there. Also my dealer said he got a truck with 8 in and only 2 of them were being held for fixes. At least we know it's not all '15s across the board.

thegame9377

Thanks. Good info.

runutzzzzz

Understood but maybe some type of communication would be good.

Maybe something like

"Mr. Customer, we are sorry that your car was affected by the issue, we are quickly trying to rectify the issue and get parts to your dealership ASAP. We are expecting all repairs should take less than a day once parts are received. We will update you as soon as we get an ETA on the parts"

Instead we get this.

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St!ngray

Just so you know I owned one of those vehicles and YES! it also affected other manufacturers.
Also the problem would only manifest itself, if as GM said you put to much weight on the key chain.

Zymurgy

GM is not going to communicate to an individual on a car that is still in dealer inventory (even if it is a "retail sold" order). That fact of the matter is, until the car is actually sold and title transferred the car is not yours. You could back out of the deal and the car gets sold to someone else. Your DEALER is the one that needs to be communicating to you.

runutzzzzz

Then my question is has GM notified the dealer? Because if they don't notify the dealer, which in my case, the dealership has no new information, isn't that just as bad?

Hopefully GM has notified them and they just have misinformation.

BTW, I Chatted with GM CC and the said they have no information and no ETA.

GTJim

I love Corvette's and own two of them now. I would love to trade both in and get a C7 but not with all the issues they are having with the car now, no way! I'll keep what I have and hope they get their sh*t together.

Zymurgy

I believe the most accurate answer at this time for those impacted is that GM does not have an ETA. They're trying to get their arms around this, determine what has to be done, etc. You want an answer, but you probably have the best answer possible at this point.

AustinVettes

So news flash, the Corvette isn't going to be made by anyone other than GM any time soon. Judging from your mountain of previous posts, it doesn't seem like you want a Corvette. It seems like you want to find as many excuses as possible NOT to buy the car.

There is nothing wrong with deciding that the car is not for you. It does get tiring however to have the forum filled with posts by tire kickers who can only see the worst in the car. At some point, you have to ask yourself why you still come here if you've already established a mile long list of issues you have with the car. Doesn't it seem like your time would be better spent on the a car forum that had a manufacturer you liked, that sold cars you are comfortable paying for, and had a model you didn't have 100 reservations about buying?

This place is getting filled with nothing but whiners, nervous nellies, the paranoid and the trolls. The vast majority of us who have had Corvettes have had great experiences with the cars. However a small number of folks that want to wallow in any negative incident has drowned out much of the fun of being here. And that's a shame.

runutzzzzz

To my point, no one knows anything and the ones that do, don't want to share the info.

Ohh well, what can you do? Either wait or back out.

kenrobb

Dealers are in the dark also. Friend of mine has his stuck at BG. Dealer has invoice, web says it has shipped (doubtful), and dealer has big STOP order on the car if it shows up there. Other than that nothing is known.

mracer14

Well said.

Bill Dearborn

From some of the reports it looks like GM will be paying out for deaths that may not be caused by the switch. One person was riding in the rear seat and the car had the power steering and brakes stop working. The driver had the responsibility to control the car under those circumstances since PS/PB can fail for many different reasons and a driver needs to be able to handle that situation. I think the original 13 deaths that GM acknowledged were due to a person dying when the air bag didn't open.

Bill

Gr8ful

Austinvettes,

Well said. I agree with you. This C7 general section has really turned into a negative Stingray forum.
Sad.

Jay_Davis

I know the feeling. Placed my order at the beginning of January for a 2014, finally get a 2015 built last week and now its stuck waiting for them to produce and fix an extra 1300 airbags. Since mine VIN is at the end of the list, I'm sure it will be last too.

Its funny, I said when this happened "at least I didn't go for the museum delivery and have to worry about changing travel plans at the last minute".

If they wanted to be efficient, they should only do the museum delivery cars themselves and ship the rest to the dealers. Then just have the new airbags shipped directly to the dealers and let them replace them. That the time between the parts being available and customers getting their cars would be minimal.

Jay_Davis

Well, in this case it doesn't seem that complicated. The production line is still moving and the cars currently being built don't have the problem. So its really just the logistical problem of producing an extra 1300 components and getting them installed. Of course, depending on the capacity of the manufacturer, producing an extra 1300 (which is about 8 production days worth) could take a bit.

Tbong

I understand but people have been hanging all kinds of keys and things on their keychains for years and years. GM even realized it was a problem and did nothing about it until people die and they had to. employees warned management in 2005 that the auto maker had a "serious safety problem" GM covered it up and ignored the issue..

No other manufacturer had a a major safety recall that caused injury because "keychains were too heavy" and GM knew about it and still buried it and did not fix the problem and now they blame the customer.

So when they claim its a "bad oil filter" some of us are and should be questioning their explanation for engine failures,