2015's Stop-Sale - When is GM Going to tell us what's going on?
09-18-2014, 07:23 AM
#101
A lot of cars have issues and recalls are very widespread. They just don't get press. I own a 2010 prius and it's had four recalls. The last was eight months ago and they changed the brake master cylinder. $2500 job, parts and labor, with Toyota on a 5 yr old car with 60000 miles. Brand new in 2009 the car cost me 22K. You have to think, this car is up there with exotics for less than half the price. (I'm talking the 1LT) 55K with any discount can get you a Z51. I would assume some of those parts are from the lowest bidder and every once in awhile, that'll show. It happens to many other cars as well....
09-18-2014, 09:24 AM
#102
Drifting
Cost is a tough one because there is so much involved, but I can't see it costing a whole lot for them to have the dealer fix it. We just don't know what it costs to store the cars there then to deal with the backlog of shipping the cars out. Not to mention that the sooner they get the cars to customers the sooner money is collected for an item they've already paid to have built. I'm sure someone at GM has this equation.
09-18-2014, 09:41 AM
#103
As far as who fixes it, that all depends on what has to be fixed. If its an airbag module swap, I have no problem with the dealer doing it.
Cost is a tough one because there is so much involved, but I can't see it costing a whole lot for them to have the dealer fix it. We just don't know what it costs to store the cars there then to deal with the backlog of shipping the cars out. Not to mention that the sooner they get the cars to customers the sooner money is collected for an item they've already paid to have built. I'm sure someone at GM has this equation.
Cost is a tough one because there is so much involved, but I can't see it costing a whole lot for them to have the dealer fix it. We just don't know what it costs to store the cars there then to deal with the backlog of shipping the cars out. Not to mention that the sooner they get the cars to customers the sooner money is collected for an item they've already paid to have built. I'm sure someone at GM has this equation.
Valid points, but there is a reason that Chevy keeps all the corvettes they produce in BG for a two week quality control hold and it is not because they look pretty on the lot.
They obviously have already investigated the "equation" and have determined that it costs them less to fix any problems discovered in BG than the cost associated with addressing fixes in the "field".
09-18-2014, 03:29 PM
#104
Good. A couple of people will get a good deal on a really great car.
An unattached emergency brake cable and a bad airbag module on a few cars and that's it? Perhaps you should just move into a cave and get rid of anything built in the last 150 years. Do you want to know what's really "under the hood" of all the other things you depend on? Cell phones...power grid....hospital equipment...aircraft....traffic control systems....and on and on and on.
An unattached emergency brake cable and a bad airbag module on a few cars and that's it? Perhaps you should just move into a cave and get rid of anything built in the last 150 years. Do you want to know what's really "under the hood" of all the other things you depend on? Cell phones...power grid....hospital equipment...aircraft....traffic control systems....and on and on and on.
as for brake cables and air bag LOL thats just what you know NOW.
i still own more vettes and like them and i know whats under the hood of them .......and yes i do want to know whats ''under the hood '' of things i depend on only a fool wouldn't .
i hope everyone gets a perfect car and they alll enjoy them but based on the two new ones ive own i don't trust them .
i'm sure the cars will be let go soon ! but me ,,,, if they can't get something ( else ) like an air bag and e. brake right
i would sure be checking under the hood ..............but back on post ...my dealer said he has some comming in so i guess they will be showing up soon .
everyone injoy those new rides .................
09-18-2014, 08:13 PM
#105
Drifting
09-19-2014, 05:37 AM
#106
whats up with you , do i know you ? because you sure don't know me .
or what my understanding of anything is .
i did not like or trust the 14's i bought and with prob's with the 15's already i'm not going to rush out as planed and buy that z. so you can stop with the personal atacks,and get back on post.
what i said was a statement not a q.
try and understand that.you might also try owning a few of these cars or atleast 1.
now have a great day .
now to the people looking for thier cars ..... my dealer said he had 3 new 15s comming about a week from now so it seems they are letting some of the cars go . he nad no word on fixes .
or what my understanding of anything is .
i did not like or trust the 14's i bought and with prob's with the 15's already i'm not going to rush out as planed and buy that z. so you can stop with the personal atacks,and get back on post.
what i said was a statement not a q.
try and understand that.you might also try owning a few of these cars or atleast 1.now have a great day .
now to the people looking for thier cars ..... my dealer said he had 3 new 15s comming about a week from now so it seems they are letting some of the cars go . he nad no word on fixes .
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09-19-2014, 06:07 AM
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I think GM was being overly cautious.
On a plane right now to pick upy beauty!
09-19-2014, 06:32 AM
#108
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09-19-2014, 06:41 AM
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09-19-2014, 09:12 AM
#112
Drifting
whats up with you , do i know you ? because you sure don't know me .
or what my understanding of anything is .
i did not like or trust the 14's i bought and with prob's with the 15's already i'm not going to rush out as planed and buy that z. so you can stop with the personal atacks,and get back on post.
what i said was a statement not a q. try and understand that.you might also try owning a few of these cars or atleast 1.
now have a great day .
or what my understanding of anything is .
i did not like or trust the 14's i bought and with prob's with the 15's already i'm not going to rush out as planed and buy that z. so you can stop with the personal atacks,and get back on post.
what i said was a statement not a q.
try and understand that.you might also try owning a few of these cars or atleast 1.now have a great day .
What I've seen with the C7 is a slightly high number of what I would classify as production and quality control issues, mostly of which would be classified as "minor" issues. There have been no major design flaws, at least that have come to light so far.
And to clear up more of your bad assumptions, I've owned 3 Vettes (C4, C5, and a C6) and had been driving them as a daily driver for over 20 years. My C7 is one of the ones sitting at the plant for the airbag issues waiting to get fixed and/or released. I also have 30+ years of engineering experience building communications, medical, and military equipment. So feel free to dismiss what I say.
Most of the people hear are trying to find out useful information that actually helps them, not hear someone preaching about how they hate the car and think its bad.
09-19-2014, 01:34 PM
#113
Sure I know you. See the likes of you all the time. You contribute nothing to these discussions but for some reason want to convince people that the C7 is no good, based, obviously, on very little understanding of the cars and engineering. Guess you have nothing better to do.
What I've seen with the C7 is a slightly high number of what I would classify as production and quality control issues, mostly of which would be classified as "minor" issues. There have been no major design flaws, at least that have come to light so far.
And to clear up more of your bad assumptions, I've owned 3 Vettes (C4, C5, and a C6) and had been driving them as a daily driver for over 20 years. My C7 is one of the ones sitting at the plant for the airbag issues waiting to get fixed and/or released. I also have 30+ years of engineering experience building communications, medical, and military equipment. So feel free to dismiss what I say.
Most of the people hear are trying to find out useful information that actually helps them, not hear someone preaching about how they hate the car and think its bad.
What I've seen with the C7 is a slightly high number of what I would classify as production and quality control issues, mostly of which would be classified as "minor" issues. There have been no major design flaws, at least that have come to light so far.
And to clear up more of your bad assumptions, I've owned 3 Vettes (C4, C5, and a C6) and had been driving them as a daily driver for over 20 years. My C7 is one of the ones sitting at the plant for the airbag issues waiting to get fixed and/or released. I also have 30+ years of engineering experience building communications, medical, and military equipment. So feel free to dismiss what I say.
Most of the people hear are trying to find out useful information that actually helps them, not hear someone preaching about how they hate the car and think its bad.
try reading my post . regarding o.p. your doing nothing but trolling .and when you ''DO''' get a c7 that you can talk about . just rember one word ''KARMA''.................med. and military ..lol your nothing but a programer .so i'm taking your advise and dismissing everything you say ......now will you just go away
''and hope the real owners get thier cars , '''as i said they are letting them go this comming week and some already.'''
now have a nice day and rember karma
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09-19-2014, 07:03 PM
#114
Drifting
so you don't have a c7 and you know everything about it try reading my post . regarding o.p. your doing nothing but trolling .
and when you ''DO''' get a c7 that you can talk about . just rember one word ''KARMA''.................med. and military ..lol your nothing but a programer .so i'm taking your advise and dismissing everything you say ......now will you just go away
''and hope the real owners get thier cars , '''as i said they are letting them go this comming week and some already.'''
now have a nice day and rember karma
try reading my post . regarding o.p. your doing nothing but trolling .and when you ''DO''' get a c7 that you can talk about . just rember one word ''KARMA''.................med. and military ..lol your nothing but a programer .so i'm taking your advise and dismissing everything you say ......now will you just go away
''and hope the real owners get thier cars , '''as i said they are letting them go this comming week and some already.'''
now have a nice day and rember karma
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09-19-2014, 09:53 PM
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Fun day! Got 700 miles on her now!
I saw one sheet of the "Stop-Sale" Vins and there were still two VINs that were listed under Stop-Sale, they were in the 1600 or 1700's IIRC. All the ones in my range 28xx were clear forsale.
I saw one sheet of the "Stop-Sale" Vins and there were still two VINs that were listed under Stop-Sale, they were in the 1600 or 1700's IIRC. All the ones in my range 28xx were clear forsale.
09-19-2014, 10:22 PM
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09-19-2014, 10:43 PM
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Ask your dealership for this list!
Mine is VIN 2853 so we are only 5 apart, yours went down the same time more than likely...
09-19-2014, 11:06 PM
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When picking up my car. He had one sheet of he said "many sheets" that had my VIN and said it was ok to sell. On that one sheet, maybe 50? Cars I saw two vins that were not released.
Ask your dealership for this list!
Mine is VIN 2853 so we are only 5 apart, yours went down the same time more than likely...
Ask your dealership for this list!
Mine is VIN 2853 so we are only 5 apart, yours went down the same time more than likely...
David
09-20-2014, 01:30 AM
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Coming soon
My coupe was assembled this week. My dealer said it missed both recalls. Chevrolet tracking site says shipped enroute. Dealer says awaiting truck. CCS on this forum has not responded to three inquiries. It's a little frustrating but still fun and I am excited. This wait will soon be over.