Mid Engine ZR1 coming, C8's all to follow platform!
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List price for Ford GT was $140K and then $150K, equal to $176-177K in current dollars. Also GT was about 5 1/2 inches lower than current C7, probably too low (and too expensive) for daily-driver status. It's not surprising sales were not huge, though I think Ford sold almost as many as originally planned (4500, according to Wikipedia).
The above helps explain the sales figure, as does the fact that the GT was a kind of a publicity stunt, not really a continuation of the very different original GT40 race cars.
A mid engine C8 at a more reasonable price (for lower-content cars) might do well at prices closer to current C7, I think. As I have mentioned before, the competition for new C6 cars included used C5 & C6s. C7 has been new enough that hasn't kicked in as yet, but it will become a factor going forward. A mid-engine C8 would again have that "all-new" cachet, but if it sold for $150-$200K it would be abandoning the Corvette market niche.
So, you're quite right that none of this is guaranteed. The devil is in the details for such a mid-engine car.
The above helps explain the sales figure, as does the fact that the GT was a kind of a publicity stunt, not really a continuation of the very different original GT40 race cars.
A mid engine C8 at a more reasonable price (for lower-content cars) might do well at prices closer to current C7, I think. As I have mentioned before, the competition for new C6 cars included used C5 & C6s. C7 has been new enough that hasn't kicked in as yet, but it will become a factor going forward. A mid-engine C8 would again have that "all-new" cachet, but if it sold for $150-$200K it would be abandoning the Corvette market niche.
So, you're quite right that none of this is guaranteed. The devil is in the details for such a mid-engine car.
If this is true will it have an influence on a Mid-engine Vette?
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...?__federated=1
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yeah, I know, it's just Motor Trend, and we can never believe them..........
But, if there is any truth to both of these rumors, the competition between Ford and GM might just be a motivator for both of them!
#63
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If this is true will it have an influence on a Mid-engine Vette?
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...?__federated=1
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...?__federated=1
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If this is true will it have an influence on a Mid-engine Vette?
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...?__federated=1
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...?__federated=1
But for this topic to really mean anything there would have to be an "every man's" MR Vette...
#65
Mid-engine is definitely the corvette of the future; always has been always will be.
Actually, I am a true believer. I think it will be a hybrid that will compete with the 918 and P1. The Z already will hold its own against the typical mid-engine super car.
Actually, I am a true believer. I think it will be a hybrid that will compete with the 918 and P1. The Z already will hold its own against the typical mid-engine super car.
#66
Personally I love the idea of a MR corvette because I can knock two things off my list; owning a Corvette and owning a mid engined car. But, I'm thinking from the perspective of existing corvette owners and fans and it's the push-rod, big displacement front engine, rear wheel drive layout that's a big part of why the existing buyers come back.
Started by the hydro-formed frame rails, torque-tube, and transaxle of the C5, the last three generations of the Corvette has essentially been the same car. The Corvette is the american 911. Neither car has toyed around with it's basic formula. When Porsche put it's engine in the middle it becomes a different car. A Carrera GT, a Boxter, a Cayman...
There's no doubt in my mind that GM started this rumor. There's too many different people reporting on this. Then you have those goofy pictures of the "malibuvette". GM's reading all of this listening to our reactions, especially how many us positive or negative about the possibility of a Mid-Engined sports car.
For some reason this subject brings out a *LOT* angst, lots of haters and hurtful comments coming from those who think the idea of a mid-engined Corvette is ridiculous. After pondering this question I agree.
I think they are working on a mid-engined car but it's not the Corvette. It's going to share engines and platform parts with the Vette but most of the Bloomington/Normal crowd would suffer strokes if it shared the same name.
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#67
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If they make a mid engine model as a separate entity that would be great. I personally have no interest in one since there is not enough room in mid engine cars to pack for a trip. If it goes strictly mid engine I'll be out. Will keep our C3 and C5 though.
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I'd imagine they would engineer in some pretty nifty storage throughout the car. Probably enough to pack for a few nights away if you split up your items into smaller luggage (carry-on or mid sized gym-duffle bags).
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^^^ c7.5
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#73
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Stingray Chevrolet already has one of the mid-engine coupes on their showroom floor.
It's bright red. They said Chevy calls it an Fur-are-ray!!!!!
IT'S TRUE~!!!!!
It's bright red. They said Chevy calls it an Fur-are-ray!!!!!
IT'S TRUE~!!!!!
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Also, the Alpha-based 2016 Camaro may end up lighter than the C7 Corvette, giving it the performance edge over its bigger brother.
Good luck cutting the weight down from the current Camaro's Curb weight: 3,702 to 4,374 lbs. down to less than 3,300 lbs. The Camaro is HUGE.
Good luck cutting the weight down from the current Camaro's Curb weight: 3,702 to 4,374 lbs. down to less than 3,300 lbs. The Camaro is HUGE.
#78
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The original car was anemic, and the POS term might be appropriate. However, as the car was developed, it became a fine piece of machinery for the time. The 1988 Fiero Formula was a great sports car. I was sad to see it go.
Had GM continued to develop the car, I imagine today it would be the equivalent to the Porsche Cayman S in being a thorn in the side of its big brother.
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Motor authority writes a great article. Hope it all is true and I happen to agree with everything they said in the article.
Their accuracy or authority is based off the same rumors we all hear...
Great to conjure up. Hope it's all true...yet these poor fellas have little inside connections...almost as few as GM inside news.....they have no inside news ....other than a catchy name.
Still it was a fun read...and I look forward to a 500 hp DCT rear mid engine corvette targa roof for 65 grand ..
Sign me up...I'll park it next to my electric four door cuv and or my tesla sedan...(maybe a GMC all electric small cuv)
No electric or awd needed for my rear mid engine corvette....with DCT...
Their accuracy or authority is based off the same rumors we all hear...
Great to conjure up. Hope it's all true...yet these poor fellas have little inside connections...almost as few as GM inside news.....they have no inside news ....other than a catchy name.
Still it was a fun read...and I look forward to a 500 hp DCT rear mid engine corvette targa roof for 65 grand ..
Sign me up...I'll park it next to my electric four door cuv and or my tesla sedan...(maybe a GMC all electric small cuv)
No electric or awd needed for my rear mid engine corvette....with DCT...
#80
Burning Brakes
Motor authority writes a great article. Hope it all is true and I happen to agree with everything they said in the article.
Their accuracy or authority is based off the same rumors we all hear...
Great to conjure up. Hope it's all true...yet these poor fellas have little inside connections...almost as few as GM inside news.....they have no inside news ....other than a catchy name.
Still it was a fun read...and I look forward to a 500 hp DCT rear mid engine corvette targa roof for 65 grand ..
Sign me up...I'll park it next to my electric four door cuv and or my tesla sedan...(maybe a GMC all electric small cuv)
No electric or awd needed for my rear mid engine corvette....with DCT...
Their accuracy or authority is based off the same rumors we all hear...
Great to conjure up. Hope it's all true...yet these poor fellas have little inside connections...almost as few as GM inside news.....they have no inside news ....other than a catchy name.
Still it was a fun read...and I look forward to a 500 hp DCT rear mid engine corvette targa roof for 65 grand ..
Sign me up...I'll park it next to my electric four door cuv and or my tesla sedan...(maybe a GMC all electric small cuv)
No electric or awd needed for my rear mid engine corvette....with DCT...