Should I avoid a Z51??
#41
Z51 has more than just track features.
Z51 adds $5000 at MSRP, MSRC adds another $1725. That totals $6725.
You can get a base and add the ZF1 appearance package for $1995 to make it look like a Z51 and then add the NPP for $1195 that comes standard with Z51. That's a total of $3190.
Difference between the Z51 with MSRC and a look-alike base is ($6725 - $3190 = $3535). Without MSRC, the difference would only be $1810.
Z51 adds $5000 at MSRP, MSRC adds another $1725. That totals $6725.
You can get a base and add the ZF1 appearance package for $1995 to make it look like a Z51 and then add the NPP for $1195 that comes standard with Z51. That's a total of $3190.
Difference between the Z51 with MSRC and a look-alike base is ($6725 - $3190 = $3535). Without MSRC, the difference would only be $1810.
#42
Instructor
Z51
No one has talked about the different gearing in the Z51. That was important to me. All Corvettes are too long legged in the gearing.
The Z51 gearing makes the car more fun to drive on the street.
I took a 300 mile trip through the Arkansas mountains today and made use of all the different suspension settings which made the drive more enjoyable and entertaining.
I am 67 years old, but drive the back roads in the Ozarks very hard
At least weekly. I will probably never track the car, but that doesn't stop making day to day use of the Z51 features and enjoying the benefits.
I have a different setting for different moods and roads and still get the ride smooth when I just want to cruise.
I have special ordered both a C7 coupe and convertible with Z51 and magnetic ride. If I get another it will definitely be a Z51.
A real performance bargain in my book.
The Z51 gearing makes the car more fun to drive on the street.
I took a 300 mile trip through the Arkansas mountains today and made use of all the different suspension settings which made the drive more enjoyable and entertaining.
I am 67 years old, but drive the back roads in the Ozarks very hard
At least weekly. I will probably never track the car, but that doesn't stop making day to day use of the Z51 features and enjoying the benefits.
I have a different setting for different moods and roads and still get the ride smooth when I just want to cruise.
I have special ordered both a C7 coupe and convertible with Z51 and magnetic ride. If I get another it will definitely be a Z51.
A real performance bargain in my book.
#43
I am asking for some honest opinions here, so please try to help me to decide. I bought a 08 Z06 and shortly thereafter, all the bad stories began about LS7 engine failing. I never did any problems with the car and sold it due to health issues. Now, I have my sights set on a C7 Z51(dealer stock, very good price & right color) and all these posts about the "burping oil", 500 mile initial oil changes, stiff ride, etc have me wondering. There does not seem to be too many issues with the wet sump engine in the base car. Is the sky falling again?
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your input.
That's really a strong bottom-line for some in making that decision.
#44
Melting Slicks
C7 z51
Why bother to ask. My car has been perfect. There is always a reason not to buy if you are looking for one. Get over it and have fun. I can't wait for spring.
#48
Drifting
I'm so happy with my 3LT non Z51 vert. I decided against the Z51 because I did not like the rear spoiler or the stiffer ride. I also understand the brakes produce a lot of dust (there is hardly any from mine). I do like the wheels but they were not available w/o the Z51 package.
#49
Team Owner
#50
Le Mans Master
So, I ended up with a $2000 discount on a non Z51, 7 spd. manual with NPP as it's only option. Long story short...$6600 less!
I am very happy with my non Z51 and I too do not miss what I don't have!
#51
Safety Car
I'm so happy with my 3LT non Z51 vert. I decided against the Z51 because I did not like the rear spoiler or the stiffer ride. I also understand the brakes produce a lot of dust (there is hardly any from mine). I do like the wheels but they were not available w/o the Z51 package.
#52
Burning Brakes
#53
Race Director
I find the ride on my Z51 with mag ride surprisingly compliant. I am happy with my choice there. As far as the burp scenario, my car was overfilled from the factory and did the burp thing. I changed my oil and have had no further problems, following some of the suggestions I read here on the forum. I am running just over 9 quarts which keeps my dipstick level around midway checking as specified in the manual.
You will be happy with a Z51.
You will be happy with a Z51.
#54
Melting Slicks
It also has the exact same size rubber (245F, 285R), albeit in a lower profile and larger diameter wheel.
As for down-force, the rear spoiler does so little that at up to 100 mph the difference is negligible.
#55
Melting Slicks
I find it interesting that the Z06 M7 has even taller gearing than the Base transmission.
#56
Instructor
Gearing
I actually think the gearing in the M7 base is better than the Z51 - the taller first gear, allows closer ratios between 1-2-3-4-5 - the gears you use on the street; and unless it is 80+ degrees out, the tires on the Z51 aren't sticky enough to keep the rear wheels from spinning at full throttle above 4,500 rpm in 1st gear.
I find it interesting that the Z06 M7 has even taller gearing than the Base transmission.
I find it interesting that the Z06 M7 has even taller gearing than the Base transmission.
Why wouldn't the ZO6 Z7 have taller gearing,with 175 more hp you wouldn't even have time to get out of low gear.
#57
Burning Brakes
I went with the Z51 package, but not because I plan to use it on the track. I just liked the idea of having larger front brakes, larger wheels/tires, additional engine (HD) cooling, eDifferential, cooling for the differential, and the performance gear ratios. I also opt'ed for the mag ride control. For me, I wouldn't have considered buying my C7 any other way, but it is nice that GM offers the choice to fit different wants and needs.
As for the harsh ride stories, the suspension does stiffen up in the Sport and Track modes but it's fun to activate these modes on certain roads and (just my opinion), the suspension smooths out nicely in the other 3 modes. But some people are more sensitive and/or critical of their suspension, so don't rely exclusively on what others write. I suggest test driving both the Z-51 and non, and see which fits you best.
Good luck.
Last edited by Rave; 11-28-2014 at 06:08 PM.
#58
Drifting
I am asking for some honest opinions here, so please try to help me to decide. I bought a 08 Z06 and shortly thereafter, all the bad stories began about LS7 engine failing. I never did any problems with the car and sold it due to health issues. Now, I have my sights set on a C7 Z51(dealer stock, very good price & right color) and all these posts about the "burping oil", 500 mile initial oil changes, stiff ride, etc have me wondering. There does not seem to be too many issues with the wet sump engine in the base car. Is the sky falling again?
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your input.
#59
Le Mans Master
Just because a few people are posting problems on these forums, doesn't necessary mean everyone is. Your statement above is a good example of this. And of course there's no way for you to know how other owners are treating their vehicle.
I went with the Z51 package, but not because I plan to use it on the track. I just liked the idea of having larger front brakes, larger wheels/tires, additional engine (HD) cooling, eDifferential, cooling for the differential, and the performance gear ratios. I also opt'ed for the mag ride control. For me, I wouldn't have considered buying my C7 any other way, but it is nice that GM offers the choice to fit different wants and needs.
As for the harsh ride stories, the suspension does stiffen up in the Sport and Track modes but it's fun to activate these modes on certain roads and (just my opinion), the suspension smooths out nicely in the other 3 modes. But some people are more sensitive and/or critical of their suspension, so don't rely exclusively on what others write. I suggest test driving both the Z-51 and non, and see which fits you best.
Good luck.
I went with the Z51 package, but not because I plan to use it on the track. I just liked the idea of having larger front brakes, larger wheels/tires, additional engine (HD) cooling, eDifferential, cooling for the differential, and the performance gear ratios. I also opt'ed for the mag ride control. For me, I wouldn't have considered buying my C7 any other way, but it is nice that GM offers the choice to fit different wants and needs.
As for the harsh ride stories, the suspension does stiffen up in the Sport and Track modes but it's fun to activate these modes on certain roads and (just my opinion), the suspension smooths out nicely in the other 3 modes. But some people are more sensitive and/or critical of their suspension, so don't rely exclusively on what others write. I suggest test driving both the Z-51 and non, and see which fits you best.
Good luck.
Having said that what ever you do, under no circumstances, order the Torch Red with A.R. interior and dual carbon flash full length stripes, if you don't want people staring and waiving at you, and gathering around your car every time you park it.
Save the wave and always remember. There is no such thing as having too much Horse Power.