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Old 11-26-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by daytonagary
No Z51 for me, track use is the only time you will see a penny's worth of extra enjoyment for all the extra money it costs. Bigger tires, bigger brakes, etc. will not be of any benefit since the stock parts are awesome as they are for all aspects of street driving.
Have you driven a Z51?
Old 11-26-2014, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jversluis
Ive had the Z51 on previous vettes. the best rider was the 427. Now I have a 15 C7 with 2LT, and NPP exhaust. Its ride is very good and not harsh. Don't waste the money if your not going to track and enjoy the extra features that the 2LT provides. Tires cheaper to replace, no dry sump and the ride is better.
The cheaper tires bit really doesn't amount to much. From Tire Rack, set of 4 OEM replacements for Z51 are $1494. For non-Z51 $1486. A whopping $8 difference.
Old 11-26-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
The cheaper tires bit really doesn't amount to much. From Tire Rack, set of 4 OEM replacements for Z51 are $1494. For non-Z51 $1486. A whopping $8 difference.
If I'm buying a 60 thousand dollar corvette I'm not going to choose my options to save money on tire replacements lol
Old 11-26-2014, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 10mm_
Just built one on GM's website, White 2LT Z51 A8 Black Wheels MSR is 59,643 after GMS pricing.

I might just order that. Is there any hold or anything on these? How long would it take for a car that I ordered now?
Go for it! You won't be disappointed, plus the car will have a higher value when you sell it.
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Originally Posted by Keith N
Go for it! You won't be disappointed, plus the car will have a higher value when you sell it.
Hey how do you know me so well!!!
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not needed- save your $$$$
Old 11-26-2014, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 10mm_
So I have been C7 shopping for a couple weeks now, and all along I had it in my head that I wanted a Z51. I just looked at not getting a Z51 like getting 6 cyl Camaro or something, like it wouldn't be the same without it.

I know some people say it's only for track use and other say it has benefits on the street. But after doing some research I am wonder, maybe I should go 2LT instead of Z51 1LT.

Looking for advice from people that actually own them, what do you guys think? No the dry sump/oiling issue doesn't scare me.
Good points, that I am curious to research too.
Several answers geared to the non Z51 as well.
The driving difference may be a deciding factor.

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Old 11-26-2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 10mm_
So I have been C7 shopping for a couple weeks now, and all along I had it in my head that I wanted a Z51. I just looked at not getting a Z51 like getting 6 cyl Camaro or something, like it wouldn't be the same without it.

I know some people say it's only for track use and other say it has benefits on the street. But after doing some research I am wonder, maybe I should go 2LT instead of Z51 1LT.

Looking for advice from people that actually own them, what do you guys think? No the dry sump/oiling issue doesn't scare me.
Looks like we have a lot of folks that are also talking you INTO the Z51.

Anyhow, to answer your question point blank, there are plenty of reasons not to get the Z51, which means going with non Z51.

To throw JUST ONE reason at you - NO Brake Dust. Some Z51 owners will minimize this and perhaps it will turn into a pissing match and everyone will forget the only reason I mention this is to directly answer your question, which is the point of the thread.

I had a 2009 Z435i before the C7 and got so sick and tired of cleaning brake dust, the C7 without the Z51 was a welcome enjoyment. It will boil down to what is important for you.

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Old 11-26-2014, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Supersonic 427
You can't go wrong with a 2LT Z51...just add mag ride to complete the package.
Exactly!
Old 11-26-2014, 07:57 PM
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Talk Me Out Of A Z51

Sorry can't. Love mine. Each to their own of course, but for me, if I wouldn't have gotten the Z51 package with Mag Ride, in the back of my mind I would have always wondered what the difference would have been.
Old 11-26-2014, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rave
Talk Me Out Of A Z51

Sorry can't. Love mine. Each to their own of course, but for me, if I wouldn't have gotten the Z51 package with Mag Ride, in the back of my mind I would have always wondered what the difference would have been.
Pretty much where I am. Since I am going Z51 I am going mag ride so I can have comfort and performance.
Old 11-26-2014, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RedC7AZ
To throw JUST ONE reason at you - NO Brake Dust. Some Z51 owners will minimize this and perhaps it will turn into a pissing match and everyone will forget the only reason I mention this is to directly answer your question, which is the point of the thread.
Nah, it's only a pissing match if Chevy is blamed for it. $3xx. and that problem is solved.
Old 11-27-2014, 12:42 AM
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10mm - Simple decision. If the dry sump oil system, electronic limited slip differential, differential cooler, upgraded performance suspension, performance exhaust, HD engine cooling, option for the magnetic ride control, larger wheels and tires, and slotted brake rotors are not important to you, go with the non-Z51. If these upgrades are important to you, it's Z-51 time. Either way you'll have one heck of a nice car.
Old 11-27-2014, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodson
Nah, it's only a pissing match if Chevy is blamed for it. $3xx. and that problem is solved.
You're right on cue, as it sounds like you've attempted to minimized the problem down to a $300 cost.

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Old 11-27-2014, 08:52 AM
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Exactly
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10mm - Simple decision. If the dry sump oil system, electronic limited slip differential, differential cooler, upgraded performance suspension, performance exhaust, HD engine cooling, option for the magnetic ride control, larger wheels and tires, and slotted brake rotors are not important to you, go with the non-Z51. If these upgrades are important to you, it's Z-51 time. Either way you'll have one heck of a nice car.
Old 11-27-2014, 08:55 AM
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I have a base convertible. I didn't go Z51 because; dry sump engine oil system, electronic limited slip differential, I projected these two systems would have issues, dry sump = servicing, e-diff = mechanical. My C6 had magnetic ride, with the C7's stiffer frame have not missed it. Currently I have driven 2,500 miles, never have come close to the car's capabilities. I like the 2LT interior, all the features expected in a $60,000+ car. I also went with the navigation option, a really great system (have to read the book) superior to the hand held navigation systems many seem to favor? " AND " saved about $8,000.

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My 2014 coupe was z51. I switched to 2015 convertible with zf1 + npp because there wasnt a z51 convertible with color combo that I wanted, otherwise I would go with Z51.

Price is getting close to be the same when you start adding zf1 + npp (which is a must for any vette ) and the resale value of z51 most likely is higher than base + zf1 + npp.

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Originally Posted by 10mm_
So I have been C7 shopping for a couple weeks now, and all along I had it in my head that I wanted a Z51. I just looked at not getting a Z51 like getting 6 cyl Camaro or something, like it wouldn't be the same without it.

I know some people say it's only for track use and other say it has benefits on the street. But after doing some research I am wonder, maybe I should go 2LT instead of Z51 1LT.

Looking for advice from people that actually own them, what do you guys think? No the dry sump/oiling issue doesn't scare me.
No tracking? Go with ZF1, 2LT, Nav & NPP.
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Originally Posted by Tulsaeasyrider
No tracking? Go with ZF1, 2LT, Nav & NPP.
Well I never say never...
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Originally Posted by 10mm_
Well I never say never...
That's enough to say Z51.


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