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Old 12-06-2014, 08:49 PM
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Because the hid/LED/laser lights that are going on cars now give the spread that fogs used to add to. All fogs will be gone in a few years....also, it makes for a far cleaner front end.
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The only time I have really found fog lights helpful was improved visibility for some city streets where the lane markers should have been repainted in the last couple of decades. The lights I really miss were the fog lights on the back of an Oldsmobile Aurora I owned quite awhile ago. In fog and snow it made the car much more visible to approaching cars and when it wasn't foggy they were bright enough that if anyone was following too close turning them on stopped that behavior.

As Glen stated they aren't really needed with newer lighting technology.
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Originally Posted by lsp408
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Refresh my memory, what year Corvette had fog lights?
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Originally Posted by buckeye4
Refresh my memory, what year Corvette had fog lights?
Option on C5s through 2000. Standard 2001 on.
Standard all C6s.

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Originally Posted by buckeye4
Refresh my memory, what year Corvette had fog lights?
1984-2013, hope this reminds you.
I think having the fogs looks
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I've driven mine in fog. C7 doesn't need em.
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I never thought they really did much in fog, except make you more visible to oncoming cars, which is no small thing. They do, however, make a HUGE difference when driving in the rain on a non-lit road.

It's been raining all week, and I've been driving the C6.
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real "Fog" lights are yellow and offer very little help unless it's foggy out, clear lights
are considered "Driving Lights" and can help considerably on poorly light roads and
in hazardous conditions. here in S. Florida i have seen cops arbitrarily issue tickets
for using either in normal conditions.
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Originally Posted by 1993C4LT1
1984-2013, hope this reminds you.
I think having the fogs looks
I do too, but the newer headlights are so much better than in previous cars.
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I had fog lights on both of my C5's. I don't recall ever turning them on.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
Because the hid/LED/laser lights that are going on cars now give the spread that fogs used to add to. All fogs will be gone in a few years....also, it makes for a far cleaner front end.
And they annoy folks like me when the owners drive around in perfect weather with them on.

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Originally Posted by ParishM
here in S. Florida i have seen cops arbitrarily issue tickets
for using either in normal conditions.
That works for me!

Originally Posted by AFVETTE
And they annoy folks like me when the owners drive around in perfect weather with them on.

Tom
AMEN! This is a pet peeve of mine also. Some folks are either clueless or pretty jerky to do so. Never mind other drivers, "Look at me, man -- I got fog lights!"

Too bad there is not a way to have fog light only enabled for when they are actually needed.
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One "fog" feature I assume will be on the export cars is the rear fog light as its required in many European countries, I wish we had it.

Quick quiz, how many here know what that is and how it's activated? (Glen doesn't count and based on the number of Mercedes and BMW drivers I see improperly using them I'm guess the number is low.......)
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The don't have fog lights because GM finally got smart and figured out the bulbs kept blowing in earlier models. Rather than putting in better sockets, GM just decided to do away with them altogether. "Can you hear I am being facetious?"
If you have ever owned or seen a C5 coming toward you on the road, you know what I'm talking about.
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Fog lights were nice when we operating a car with hidden headlights. I would turn the fog lights on when operating in twilight conditions (like running lights) prior to extending the headlights. The lighting I miss is cornering lights (lit up the dark area you were turning towards) they were the vogue during the eighties and nineties.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
Because the hid/LED/laser lights that are going on cars now give the spread that fogs used to add to. All fogs will be gone in a few years....also, it makes for a far cleaner front end.
The general automotive lighting technology has vastly improved over the past 20 years, especially during the C5 and C6 model runs. I really like the clean look of the C7 with the integrated LEDs into the light housings. My only issue is that the white LED running lights look similar to the ones used by Lexus.

Originally Posted by ParishM
real "Fog" lights are yellow and offer very little help unless it's foggy out, clear lights
are considered "Driving Lights" and can help considerably on poorly light roads and
in hazardous conditions. here in S. Florida i have seen cops arbitrarily issue tickets
for using either in normal conditions.
I never used my C5 "fog lights" for fog conditions, rather I re-outfitted them with HIDs as "driving lights" for use on the poorly lit and remote roads I occassionaly drive. Plus, by adding LED switchback corners, they served as secondary driving lights at dusk before my headlights are needed.

Originally Posted by Tom/99
I had fog lights on both of my C5's. I don't recall ever turning them on.
The OEM C5 halogen fog lights had the output of two weak flashlights. I could hardly tell they were even on.

Originally Posted by Len44
That works for me!

AMEN! This is a pet peeve of mine also. Some folks are either clueless or pretty jerky to do so. Never mind other drivers, "Look at me, man -- I got fog lights!"

Too bad there is not a way to have fog light only enabled for when they are actually needed.
Interesting because when I completed my full HID/LED exterior upgrade to my 2004 C5, I had to re-aim the OEM fog light housings after the HID upgrade because the stock halogen bulbs were so weak, I couldn't even tell they were on, let alone not correctly aimed. When I combined the HID "fogs" with my ACA HID projector headlights, the 4300 temp, pure white bulbs really lit up the road. I very rarely drive with both of them on at the same time, usually only when I'm driving a remote, non-lit road, however I remember being flashed by another driver when I had both sets engaged while driving through my neighborhood testing the beam patterns.

I pretty much use my HID fogs, aka driving lights, only during rainy conditions or at dusk before I turn on/up my HID headlights, then I turn them off. Plus, I kept my high beams halogen to keep my flash-to-pass capability. However, due to the separate HID harness I installed, I can also turn on my high beam halogens without turning off my HID fogs. When all three lighting systems are engaged, I can see for miles on those dark, poorly lit back roads.




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Did the same exact thing with my C5. The improvement on the back roads made it all worth it.
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