Is Z51 overkill for daily commute car?
#22
Le Mans Master
Thank you all for your recommendation.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
You can absolutely drive it in that much snow with snow tires. I do it all the time. Some folks, mainly from places that don't get snow will tell you it can't be done. Don't listen to them.
Picture quality is only ok. Not nearly as good as a gopro for example. But that's not the true purpose of it; the main function is for telemetry on a track.
No, you'd have to start the recording yourself each time.
#23
Melting Slicks
I am facing the same decision but came to this conclusion. It is actually less expensive to purchase a 2nd "practical car" and the Z51 stingray than it is to purchase Z51 stingray as your exclusive daily driver. The rapid depreciation of placing 20,000 miles a year (in my case that is), the cost of fuel compared to a car that gets 28 miles to the gallon in the city, the replacing of the $1400 set of tires on average once a year and the inability to drive safely in sub freezing weather not to mention ice and snow and the limits of a 2 seater when needing to lug around packages and passengers helped make my decision after driving a C6 for the past 5 years as my daily driver. Bottom line, get the vette equipped the way you want and then get a 2nd 4 door car that gets great gas mileage. The best of both worlds.
#24
Race Director
I purchased a base convertible. I discovered that I seldom change suspension settings, normally leave it in sport. The base car does change throttle response and steering with the mode select. I also went with the stock exhaust system as well. The money saved will be used to purchase another Corvette in a year or two. Couldn't be happier!
#25
Le Mans Master
I am facing the same decision but came to this conclusion. It is actually less expensive to purchase a 2nd "practical car" and the Z51 stingray than it is to purchase Z51 stingray as your exclusive daily driver. The rapid depreciation of placing 20,000 miles a year (in my case that is), the cost of fuel compared to a car that gets 28 miles to the gallon in the city, the replacing of the $1400 set of tires on average once a year and the inability to drive safely in sub freezing weather not to mention ice and snow and the limits of a 2 seater when needing to lug around packages and passengers helped make my decision after driving a C6 for the past 5 years as my daily driver. Bottom line, get the vette equipped the way you want and then get a 2nd 4 door car that gets great gas mileage. The best of both worlds.
#26
I am facing the same decision but came to this conclusion. It is actually less expensive to purchase a 2nd "practical car" and the Z51 stingray than it is to purchase Z51 stingray as your exclusive daily driver. The rapid depreciation of placing 20,000 miles a year (in my case that is), the cost of fuel compared to a car that gets 28 miles to the gallon in the city, the replacing of the $1400 set of tires on average once a year and the inability to drive safely in sub freezing weather not to mention ice and snow and the limits of a 2 seater when needing to lug around packages and passengers helped make my decision after driving a C6 for the past 5 years as my daily driver. Bottom line, get the vette equipped the way you want and then get a 2nd 4 door car that gets great gas mileage. The best of both worlds.
Just my 2 cents.
Jeff
#27
Le Mans Master
Does mileage really affect the depreciation that much? How much difference between 20K and 10K per year? A few hundred? I think the primary depreciation has to do with model year change-over, features which are on the newer models that accelerate depreciation (8 spd auto vs. 6 spd), etc. Certainly high mileage cars are less desireable but only when they have really piled up mileage to the point where they become unreliable and then it just plain becomes difficult to sell the car - at any price.
Just my 2 cents.
Jeff
Just my 2 cents.
Jeff
#28
Melting Slicks
lol, I looked at all these factors as well. In 5 years, I put 100,000 miles on my C6. If I had a 2nd car, I would have only 50,000 on my C6. Thinking that miles wouldn't really affect the price that much, I was wrong. My car would have been worth $5k to $10k more at retail with half the miles. Regarding mileage, I am getting 18mpg in my C6, my new every day car is getting 28mpg. You can do the math regarding fuel savings, wear and tear, tires, etc. As much as I love driving my vette 7 days a week, the cost of maintaining it almost covers the cost of a 2nd car and more so on the Z51 Stingray. Last winter, I spent over $1200 renting a car during the ice/snow that we experienced in the northeast. That's $1200 that could have gone towards the 2nd car. Realistically, Driving a C6 in the winter is fine as long as there is no snow. Driving a Z51 Stingray with summer tires? Not so much.
Last edited by direct007; 12-17-2014 at 06:02 PM.
#30
Intermediate
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I don't think the cost of maintenance will be much more than my S4.
My yearly mileage is 10k.
A second car is a hassle due to limited parking space, extra insurance, extra maintenance, extra headache from wifey and I don't know any reliable trust worthy mechanic in my area to maintain the 2nd car.
I am just going to borrow my dad Camry when it snows.
My yearly mileage is 10k.
A second car is a hassle due to limited parking space, extra insurance, extra maintenance, extra headache from wifey and I don't know any reliable trust worthy mechanic in my area to maintain the 2nd car.
I am just going to borrow my dad Camry when it snows.
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Only if you think it is too much. I have a Z51 , not a daily driver, but for weekends. Is a Z51 too much for that? What are you going to do when you are not driving to work? I suggest you get what you want and what you can afford and enjoy every minute of it,
#33
Melting Slicks
Thank you all for your recommendation.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
#34
Safety Car
Easy answer. If you want to drive a Z51 as a daily driver, you will need to have magnetic ride option with it.
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I went for the z51 package primarily for the e-diff and optional magnetic ride which IMHO are very nice for a DD car. You won't need any of the additional cooling or anything like that. The shorter gear ratios are nice too.
The c7 is fine for winter driving provided you use the correct tires for the job. In many areas you can get by with the stock tires even in the cold for normal (non special-needs) daily driving. Don't attempt to drive in the snow without a snow set and know that you don't have warm tire race track grip in the cold. If you are going to need to drive in the snow just get a dedicated set of snows on a different set of rims (which will also be much better in the cold - and would be the recommended route either way).
No performance car on summer tires is going to be ideal in the winter (and will not be suitable in the snow). I have an Evo that was my DD and still gets plenty of use. I have pilot super sports on that too. It's phenominal in the snow, but I wouldn't drive it in the snow before removing the PSS tires and switching to my snow set.
The c7 is fine for winter driving provided you use the correct tires for the job. In many areas you can get by with the stock tires even in the cold for normal (non special-needs) daily driving. Don't attempt to drive in the snow without a snow set and know that you don't have warm tire race track grip in the cold. If you are going to need to drive in the snow just get a dedicated set of snows on a different set of rims (which will also be much better in the cold - and would be the recommended route either way).
No performance car on summer tires is going to be ideal in the winter (and will not be suitable in the snow). I have an Evo that was my DD and still gets plenty of use. I have pilot super sports on that too. It's phenominal in the snow, but I wouldn't drive it in the snow before removing the PSS tires and switching to my snow set.
#38
Drifting
Yea, it's crazy what people that don't own the Z51 will tell a prospective buyer about it. We know they don't own it or they wouldn't say what they do. Another thread to just ignore .
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Thank you all for your recommendation.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
Basically, the majority is in for the z51. Can anyone tell me how loud the z51 exhaust is? I can't already bear mine in sport mode when selected from the dashboard instead from the shifter (there are two sport mode in mine where one actuated a valve or something to make exhaust sound louder). I like the exhaust sound for a short period of time but not continuously. In short I like quiet sport car. Yeah, I know. From what I can gather in your comments, are there any other benefits beside body rolls and nose dive prevention?
By the way,
- can it be driven in 1 to 3" of snow if equipped with snow tire of the same size and rim as the OEM?
- how is the picture quality of the PDR in comparison to a similar dedicated dashcam?
- can the PDR recorded your daily driving automatically similar to a dashcam?
I will definitely test drive both and make my decision.
Get a Subaru AWD XV Crosstrek for that.
I don't even like the idea of a DD but I've been guilty on both counts.
#40
Burning Brakes
my Z51 is DD 365 days a year, I love the look and that I have choices that the base does not have.