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Old 01-27-2015, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by slesher


Also MSRC is excellent on the street. Drove both with and without and the difference was night and day.
I didn't notice a difference at all.
Old 01-27-2015, 11:58 AM
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Don't flame me as I have never owned a Corvette before. The Z51 package has a lot of very desirable features, that is obvious. Are there any downsides? I know the tires are a bit more expensive and no runflats are available in the OEM sizes. That is fine as I have been driving BMWs for years with non-runflats and no spare. Anything else I should be aware of? Is the dry sump oil system something that needs any special service? I understand the Z51 package also entitles the owner to an oil change at 500 miles and they should replace the oil with Mobil 1, is this correct? Thanks for your patience with my questions.
Old 01-27-2015, 12:02 PM
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The package price is only as good as how much you will utilize it. I have no use for it. The brakes emit a lot of dust, the oil fill is tricky and it rides hard unless you get another option. (MRC). I also want no part of the ediff.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
The package price is only as good as how much you will utilize it. I have no use for it. The brakes emit a lot of dust, the oil fill is tricky and it rides hard unless you get another option. (MRC). I also want no part of the ediff.
What is your issue with the ediff? Something else to fail? Your other comments are useful and I need to do some more research. Oh well, this is part of the fun, right?
Old 01-27-2015, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
What is your issue with the ediff? Something else to fail? Your other comments are useful and I need to do some more research. Oh well, this is part of the fun, right?
Just another thing I don't need when I'm going to the grocery store or long distance to see family. We all have diff needs, but some really want you to buy what they own....never mind your needs!....LOL
Old 01-27-2015, 12:09 PM
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Yeah, because you pay more than $5K for it in the first place. Using that logic you should just buy the Z06 because the resale on that is going to be a lot higher than a regular Stingray too!
incorrect, I paid 2800 for the package, so a 5k swing is obviously making me money.
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The Z51 tires are not run flats? Didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by bapd77
The Z51 tires are not run flats? Didn't know that.
Yes they are. The all-seasons that some have used as replacements are not run-flats in the Z51 size.
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Originally Posted by bapd77
The Z51 tires are not run flats? Didn't know that.
I believe the OEM summer tires are run flats but there aren't any all season runflats available in these sizes.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
The brakes emit a lot of dust.
Good point for OP. You'll want the aftermarket pads that cost somewhere around $300.00 for a set, which will eliminate the dusting problem. Search Carbotech 1521.
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I ordered my C6 with Z51 and have enjoyed it as my daily driver for 9 years, but I decided to order my C7 without it. Reasons I identified:

1. Cost of Z51;
2. I don't track the car and don't need the extra tenths on the street;
3. Ride harsh without MSRC;
4. Therefore, even more money for MSRC;
5. Dry sump system takes more oil (more expensive oil changes) and may be confusing to the guy changing my oil;
6. I find the lower gearing in my C6 Z51 too low for everyday street driving, and am hoping I like the street gearing in the C7 better;
7. Harsher riding tires (and potentially more expensive?);
8. No A/S runflats available in that size either; and
9. I plan to keep it for 8-10 years and don't give a hoot about resale value.

There may be a few more that I am forgetting at the moment, but it was an easy decision for me.
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Originally Posted by Indy-hp
I ordered my C6 with Z51 and have enjoyed it as my daily driver for 9 years, but I decided to order my C7 without it. Reasons I identified:

1. Cost of Z51;
2. I don't track the car and don't need the extra tenths on the street;
3. Ride harsh without MSRC;
4. Therefore, even more money for MSRC;
5. Dry sump system takes more oil (more expensive oil changes) and may be confusing to the guy changing my oil;
6. I find the lower gearing in my C6 Z51 too low for everyday street driving, and am hoping I like the street gearing in the C7 better;
7. Harsher riding tires (and potentially more expensive?);
8. No A/S runflats available in that size either; and
9. I plan to keep it for 8-10 years and don't give a hoot about resale value.

There may be a few more that I am forgetting at the moment, but it was an easy decision for me.
This is a very logical argument and fits my situation almost exactly. Do you find the ride around town and on the street to be fairly quiet and comfortable? Do you use Touring mode most of the time?
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Originally Posted by bapd77
I didn't notice a difference at all.
I test drove a ZL1 and for the life of me, couldn't feel a difference in both modes. perhaps I needed more time on it, but we got on the highway and some regular bumpy city roads. I have seen a video of a C5 though during testing, and it made a HUGE difference....

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Originally Posted by 11B250
I test drove a ZL1 and for the life of me, couldn't feel a difference in both modes. perhaps I needed more time on it, but we got on the highway and some regular bumpy city roads. I have seen a video of a C5 though during testing, and it made a HUGE difference....

Corvette C5 Magnetic Ride -- GM Promotional Video - YouTube
I believe experiences vary, but I have a 1LE Camaro and a Stingray....I've driven several Camaro ZL1s with and without the MSRC and several Corvettes C6 and C7 with and without the MSRC and I could never tell one bit of a difference in ride quality between those with and those without the technology. I do not believe there is a difference. My C6 had it and my C7 doesn't. The C7 is actually a much better ride!
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I brought a 2015 Z51 3LT. My first corvette. Bottom line...Decide what options you want and go get it. That way there will be no regrets. If I had a "do over", I'd do it again and trust me, I have no regrets. I really love driving this car.
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Originally Posted by themonk
incorrect, I paid 2800 for the package, so a 5k swing is obviously making me money.
Except the point of THIS discussion is whether the OP should get Z51 or not. Unless he goes in the waaay back machine, he's not going to pay $2800.
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
This is a very logical argument and fits my situation almost exactly. Do you find the ride around town and on the street to be fairly quiet and comfortable? Do you use Touring mode most of the time?
Don't know, my C7 won't be built until next week. I'm not regretting my order decision one bit, though.

My C6 rides quiet and comfortable WITH Z51. If anything, I hope the base C7 isn't TOO comfy.

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Old 01-27-2015, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
Even better when it was at 2800 bucks. Think of it this way, a non is great, a Z51 is even better, well worth it IMO.
even better for those that are looking for those upgrades have az51 does not make it "better" than anything other than a more trackable car IMO of course
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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
Except the point of THIS discussion is whether the OP should get Z51 or not. Unless he goes in the waaay back machine, he's not going to pay $2800.
Incorrect. Z51 includes NPP, package deal, I had to order NPP on it's own, either way it's still a good deal. You're always going to lose money on resale, what we're talking about is how much more desirable a Z51 car is compared to a NON Z51.
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Originally Posted by themonk
Incorrect. Z51 includes NPP, package deal, I had to order NPP on it's own, either way it's still a good deal. You're always going to lose money on resale, what we're talking about is how much more desirable a Z51 car is compared to a NON Z51.
No, it's not incorrect unless you make other assumptions that are not evident. No one made a comparison of a Z51 to a base with NPP. If you're going to do that you might as well thrown in a spoiler and some other dodads and say they cost the same thing.

I happen to think you ought to buy what you want, but to claim that a used Z51 sells for $5000 more than a non-Z51 without considering the initial cost doesn't pass the common sense test.


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