Manual transmission owners: Are you using Active Rev Match? Why or why not?
#41
Pro
I only use it for 'spirited driving.' I really do not downshift often between gears because I am an avid shift to neutral driver. For this reason, I do not feel that I need rev match on every time I drive.
#43
Le Mans Master
It's a fantastic feature. I always turn it on. While I am proficient in rev matching, including heel-toe, I cannot match the consistency of this system especially under lighter braking.
Does everyone here that doesn't use it still rev match and heel-toe with the system off? If not, you are really missing out.
Does everyone here that doesn't use it still rev match and heel-toe with the system off? If not, you are really missing out.
#44
Burning Brakes
Can someone please explain the way rev match works to me? Do I depress the clutch as usual but simply release it fully without applying the gas? I'm confused on the operation of it, how does it actually function?
#48
When I read some posts it seems apparent that some owners are not aware of the purpose of rev match. Which is: To match engine revs with trans revs especially when decelerating rapidly, usually in track situations. When on a track and heavy braking deceleration and down shifting are required the engine and trans revs need to match for a smooth shift and prevent the engine, which will slow faster, from skidding the tires. In the past a heal to toe "blip" on the throttle would skillfully and quickly bring the engine up 2-3000 revs making for a smooth shift and without unwanted skidding. This technique required practice. The C 7 Rev - Match feature accomplishes this synchronization automatically. The feature is really only useful in track or aggressive driving where the conditions mentioned exist. For every day driving it is not needed.
Sam.
Sam.
#49
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The A8's also rev match when paddle downshifting.
#50
Le Mans Master
When I read some posts it seems apparent that some owners are not aware of the purpose of rev match. Which is: To match engine revs with trans revs especially when decelerating rapidly, usually in track situations. When on a track and heavy braking deceleration and down shifting are required the engine and trans revs need to match for a smooth shift and prevent the engine, which will slow faster, from skidding the tires. In the past a heal to toe "blip" on the throttle would skillfully and quickly bring the engine up 2-3000 revs making for a smooth shift and without unwanted skidding. This technique required practice. The C 7 Rev - Match feature accomplishes this synchronization automatically. The feature is really only useful in track or aggressive driving where the conditions mentioned exist. For every day driving it is not needed.
Sam.
Sam.
#51
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right up until the end of your post. It's very useful in everyday driving, especially if you drive on snow (in whatever car, I won't get into that debate on this thread). Heel-toe is more for aggressive or track driving, but rev-match should but done all the time on the street.
However matching at part throttle is more difficult. I’d always try but half the time it was not a good match. The computer does it right all the time. I’ll give one example: when traveling in 5th or 6th at 60 mph on one of the rural roads where I live and turning right onto another rural road with mostly farm land all around, it’s simple to go from that low rpm and shift directly to 3rd. That’s only going to about 3500 rpm coming from 1500 to 1800 dependent on the gear I was in. Perfect match and ready for a full throttle acceleration, at least for a short run! Harder to do perfectly with heel-toe than at higher rpm on a race track! Now if I wanted to be aggressive I could go to 2nd at about 4500 rpm with a perfect match and be ready for another 2000 rpm before redline. Still only would be going ~70 mph before shifting to 3rd or probably right to 4th, but would I do that!!
Works well on any turn, even in town, when shifting to a lower gear while moving, may not even be braking.
Last edited by JerryU; 02-27-2015 at 10:02 AM.
#52
Advanced
Thread Starter
It doesn't appear to be intrusive during upshifts. During downshifts you can manually do a heel-toe throttle blip and if you don't quite get enough rpm the auto rev match will make up the difference. It's a nice feature in my opinion.
The A8's also rev match when paddle downshifting.
The A8's also rev match when paddle downshifting.
#53
Race Director
if you downshift in traffic and the rev match accelerates the car, that is no better than a drunk driver
while i generally use the clutch in my 61, a good match will slide right in NO CLUTCH! It is hard to match perfectly, so i hoped the computer would do a perfect match............. DRUNK MATCH!
it should be called AUTO-BLIP
while i generally use the clutch in my 61, a good match will slide right in NO CLUTCH! It is hard to match perfectly, so i hoped the computer would do a perfect match............. DRUNK MATCH!
it should be called AUTO-BLIP
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if you downshift in traffic and the rev match accelerates the car, that is no better than a drunk driver
while i generally use the clutch in my 61, a good match will slide right in NO CLUTCH! It is hard to match perfectly, so i hoped the computer would do a perfect match............. DRUNK MATCH!
while i generally use the clutch in my 61, a good match will slide right in NO CLUTCH! It is hard to match perfectly, so i hoped the computer would do a perfect match............. DRUNK MATCH!
The syncros and gear cluster sizes in your ’61 are smaller than the C7. Even with triple syncros and some faced with CF I always use the clutch!
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Reminded me of watching Brian Redman some years ago at Mid Ohio. I was at one sharp corner for quite a while and he hit his braking spot in the exact same location each time in a space the size of a postage stamp! No one else racing on the track, and there were some big names, was that good! Guess he could talk, chew gum as well as downshift with perfect rev match!
Last edited by JerryU; 02-27-2015 at 11:25 AM.
#58
Instructor
Active Rev Match does it the way it is supposed to blip the throttle each and every time. It really comes in handy when on the track so you can concentrate on hitting your corners etc. without adding heel/toe. Nice thing about it easy to use if you like it and easy to not engage if you don't. If nothing else with the exhaust open it just sounds good when engaged
#59
When I read some posts it seems apparent that some owners are not aware of the purpose of rev match. Which is: To match engine revs with trans revs especially when decelerating rapidly, usually in track situations. When on a track and heavy braking deceleration and down shifting are required the engine and trans revs need to match for a smooth shift and prevent the engine, which will slow faster, from skidding the tires. In the past a heal to toe "blip" on the throttle would skillfully and quickly bring the engine up 2-3000 revs making for a smooth shift and without unwanted skidding. This technique required practice. The C 7 Rev - Match feature accomplishes this synchronization automatically. The feature is really only useful in track or aggressive driving where the conditions mentioned exist. For every day driving it is not needed.
Sam.
Sam.
Once you get used to using it instead of heel-toe just make sure you don't forget to engage it prior to your first hard turn/decel on the track
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I've been doing the same for 55 years! Even the two trucks I had betwen Vette were standard shift. I know some folks have indicated it over revs. I don't find that issue. Maybe the shifting speed or how fast I make turns but is seams just right.