Arrests for Corvette owners in Street Racing Sting in Houston - PDR used as evidence?
03-27-2015, 07:26 PM
#21
Le Mans Master
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03-27-2015, 07:34 PM
#22
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Find it hard to believe that you never have exceeded the speed limit, and guess what that is breaking the law. Speeds are set for safety purposes, like you driving 29 in a posted 25 residential area could lead to more brake time needed to avoid hitting a child going out for a ball etc. I understand there is a line between reckless endangerment and people looking for a quick smile, but the guys in the video waited till traffic was clear to gas it (which is breaking the law) but hardly reckless endangerment as there was no other crossing lanes of traffic before the stop light. Some of the responses seem really down right judgmental and hypocritical when I would bet everything I own that everyone in this forum has broke the law at some point with their vehicle.
03-27-2015, 07:39 PM
#23
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Then the cops exceed 100 in an unmarked vehicle with no lights going, so they are just as guilty and could of caused death or injury themselves.
03-27-2015, 07:40 PM
#24
Drifting
(Taste like Chickin...)
03-27-2015, 08:10 PM
#26
Team Owner
Looked pretty harmless to me. Clear path reasonable speed, slow day for the cops.
03-27-2015, 08:53 PM
#29
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Honestly, this could have been any number of us who got caught up in the moment.
And while I do not promote street racing, I have done it myself. But many times when I am tempted to get a good romp in, I also consider second and third order affects to include the consequences should I get caught by law enforcement.
Unless you NEVER (not once, ever) raced on the street or are guilty of exhibition of speed (whether you got caught or not), blasting these Corvette guys who were caught is hypocritical to say the least.
Yeah, it sucks for them....but how many of us really buy a Corvette or invest $$$ simply for car shows and posted limit cruises and not once ever testing some sort of performance limits out on the streets? I got it....."Take it to the track", but the track isn't always a convenience.
If you've never (not once ever) street raced, then good for your upstanding citizenship as a motor vehicle operator. For those that have (or do), this news story could have been any one of us.
Know who you are running with and consider the consequences to your actions. It only takes one moment of crazed abandon to experience a significant emotional event like these Corvette guys featured in the news.
By the way, anyone recognize any of them?
And while I do not promote street racing, I have done it myself. But many times when I am tempted to get a good romp in, I also consider second and third order affects to include the consequences should I get caught by law enforcement.
Unless you NEVER (not once, ever) raced on the street or are guilty of exhibition of speed (whether you got caught or not), blasting these Corvette guys who were caught is hypocritical to say the least.
Yeah, it sucks for them....but how many of us really buy a Corvette or invest $$$ simply for car shows and posted limit cruises and not once ever testing some sort of performance limits out on the streets? I got it....."Take it to the track", but the track isn't always a convenience.
If you've never (not once ever) street raced, then good for your upstanding citizenship as a motor vehicle operator. For those that have (or do), this news story could have been any one of us.
Know who you are running with and consider the consequences to your actions. It only takes one moment of crazed abandon to experience a significant emotional event like these Corvette guys featured in the news.
By the way, anyone recognize any of them?
I do not agree with street racing, nor do I agree with excessive speed. But, I have occasionally stomped on it for fun. I know I certainly didn't buy the 'Vette because I thought it was slow.
So, "excessive" becomes subjective. Good thing we have courts to define that stuff.
That said, driving is a privilege, not a right. The ability to stomp on it in a performance car is also privilege limited to a small minority of the population.
Privileges come with responsibilities if they are to be maintained. As a representative group of Corvette owners and performance car owners in general, we need to set a tone of responsibility to ensure someone doesn't start thinking that those privileges should be limited.
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03-27-2015, 10:05 PM
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I was led to believe it was the Police driving the Z06 undercover vehicle making the recordings. So called "Sting Operation".
Just re watched it, Some of the first words are, "Undercover car blending in with 3 Corvettes"
Just re watched it, Some of the first words are, "Undercover car blending in with 3 Corvettes"
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03-27-2015, 10:56 PM
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I love reading these. ****ing internet lawyers and hardworking taxpayers at work demanding money be spent on catching rapists and murderers 
These threads crack me up everytime. and I come in every time to post this LOL
That is pretty sweet though. lol
Racing in so flo died about 10 years ago here. it used to be like TX, now it's just here and there as far as I know.
These threads crack me up everytime. and I come in every time to post this LOL
That is pretty sweet though. lol
Racing in so flo died about 10 years ago here. it used to be like TX, now it's just here and there as far as I know.
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03-27-2015, 11:24 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
In my opinion they need to concentrate on the texting and driving. The death toll every year is around 6000 with 330,000 injuries. Street racing only about 150 deaths. Texting and driving cause 1.6 million crashes a year. 1 out of every 4 accidents are from texting. I'm not promoting street racing but these stats show what a major problem texting and driving is over street racing.
03-27-2015, 11:47 PM
#35
They had apparently started from a light one city block away and ran our light. We were just pulling into the intersection after the light turned green for us and were nearly hit in the middle of the intersection as they roared past at probably 75-80 mph, at about 11 pm downtown as we were coming home from a concert.
Beyond that, your comment is astounding. There are plenty of cases where it may not be possible to stop during a yellow light. Two jackasses taking off before their light turns green is illegal, stupid and life-threatening in many cases. Even though my case didn't happen as you described, you imply that it would have been partially my fault. The ignorance astounds.
03-27-2015, 11:49 PM
#36
Omg isn't it so funny, o man it's just like that time that you got with those two dogs.... Wait what?!? It's sarcasim man, try and catch it next time, who gives a **** about some guys racing their cars and the cops wasting time and money on some big sting "pun intended" operation to catch them? It's fun to make jokes about, but this thread shouldn't be taken serious or even cause anyone to get upset about, haha! Good read comment wise...
03-28-2015, 12:12 AM
#37
I think that if you are caught street racing, your car should be confiscated. No further discussion. That would put an end to it.
There is a huge difference between slightly exceeding the speed limit or "getting on it" when you are in a safe location (not in the city, not on a residential street, not with other cars around and not when there are uncontrolled sidestreets or the possibility of hitting a pedestrian as well as other considerations) and lining up with another car for a race.
By definition when street racing, both drivers are concentrating only on accelerating as fast as possible, potentially reaching very high rates of speed, probably in close quarters with attention diverted from what is happening outside their own car other than what the competitor is doing. They are concentrating on shift points, wheelspin control, and possibly controlling fishtailing.
How anyone could support, condone or tacitly defend street racing is just stupefying.
There is a huge difference between slightly exceeding the speed limit or "getting on it" when you are in a safe location (not in the city, not on a residential street, not with other cars around and not when there are uncontrolled sidestreets or the possibility of hitting a pedestrian as well as other considerations) and lining up with another car for a race.
By definition when street racing, both drivers are concentrating only on accelerating as fast as possible, potentially reaching very high rates of speed, probably in close quarters with attention diverted from what is happening outside their own car other than what the competitor is doing. They are concentrating on shift points, wheelspin control, and possibly controlling fishtailing.
How anyone could support, condone or tacitly defend street racing is just stupefying.
03-28-2015, 12:50 AM
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Well said.
03-28-2015, 01:11 AM
#39
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There is a huge difference between slightly exceeding the speed limit or "getting on it" when you are in a safe location (not in the city, not on a residential street, not with other cars around and not when there are uncontrolled sidestreets or the possibility of hitting a pedestrian as well as other considerations) and lining up with another car for a race.
Sorry. But you just lost credibility Sir.
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03-28-2015, 03:24 AM
#40
You are hearing what you want to hear.
In my opinion, street racing (as defined by two or more cars in a speed competition on a public thoroughfare) is stupid, dangerous and criminally negligent in most cases and has been found to be so in multiple, innumerable court cases. The element of competition injects so much risk, bravado, injudicious and ludicrous stupidity that it's just patently wrong.
What I said was that in certain very limited situations, in a non-competitive environment, when conditions permit, that exceeding the speed limit and "getting on it" etc. may be okay. That's a far cry from street racing.