Are certain colors more prone to orange peel?
#21
Melting Slicks
I was at a local dealer killing time looking at the 2 C7s in stock. The black one had orange peel so bad that even I, who normally can handle orange peel, was appalled. The shark grey one had orange peel but it appeared much less obvious.
I have a crystal red C7 on order and am getting a little nervous about orange peel after seeing the black car. Does orange peel appear more obvious on certain colors and less on others? My real question is how obvious is orange peel on crystal red??? Does this color show orange peel more easily than say shark grey or another color?
I have a crystal red C7 on order and am getting a little nervous about orange peel after seeing the black car. Does orange peel appear more obvious on certain colors and less on others? My real question is how obvious is orange peel on crystal red??? Does this color show orange peel more easily than say shark grey or another color?
#22
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not totally.......why?
Because other GM cars are sprayed perfectly! including cheaper models... I put pics of a new Malibu here a few weeks ago that was made in Detroit and had perfect paint ( perfect when compared to any vette)
no it's something in BG that's wrong, either its the type of plastic, or a failed paint step/operation at BG...
and GM OP is worse that many others that have to able by the new rules...My guess is the real fix is too expensive to implement.
Because other GM cars are sprayed perfectly! including cheaper models... I put pics of a new Malibu here a few weeks ago that was made in Detroit and had perfect paint ( perfect when compared to any vette)
no it's something in BG that's wrong, either its the type of plastic, or a failed paint step/operation at BG...
and GM OP is worse that many others that have to able by the new rules...My guess is the real fix is too expensive to implement.
#23
Racer
1) it is "peel", not "peal"
2) the sun doesn't shine 24/7 anywhere on earth
3) you obviously have no idea what orange peel is and shouldn't be posting
#25
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I have a Crystal Red, yup noticeable orange peel but I'm not sure anyone but car aficionados notice. Get so many compliments on the car I just ignore the fact it's there now.
#26
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I have looked at the paint on dozens of C7s over the last year or so. They all seem to have a similar amount of orange peel (OP). Some appear a little better or worse than others, but that may be due to different colors appearing different while the OP in the clear coat is actually the same.
I consider the OP on my DSOM to be average for a C7. I don't like it, but it's not a big deal. I also consider it average for most cars on the market. I saw a new Aston Martin DB9 in a gas station. I took a close look at the white paint. The OP was similar to the C7. That's a $200,000 car.
It's certainly not anything I would sand off clear coat for. That clear coat is protecting your base paint. I'd rather have some minor OP than thin out my paint. If I was buying used and knew the clear coat was sanded down, think I'd pass.
I consider the OP on my DSOM to be average for a C7. I don't like it, but it's not a big deal. I also consider it average for most cars on the market. I saw a new Aston Martin DB9 in a gas station. I took a close look at the white paint. The OP was similar to the C7. That's a $200,000 car.
It's certainly not anything I would sand off clear coat for. That clear coat is protecting your base paint. I'd rather have some minor OP than thin out my paint. If I was buying used and knew the clear coat was sanded down, think I'd pass.
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#27
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I have been reading these orange peel threads for the last year and a half, so decided to do some comparison. My brother in law and I looked at our cars very carefully then went to the International Auto Show here in Phoenix - all makes and models, all clean and polished and under the same bright lights. We found all cars have orange peel! MB, BMW, Lexus, etc. were all about the same as the C7. The only car make that stood out as better was the new Bentleys. I came away feeling that my C7 (AW) was on par with other premium cars, although many cars and trucks were comparable.
My C4 (RubyRed), C5 (TR), C6 (VY) all are about the same as the C7 when I have them lined up in the garage. I have another dozen cars - all with some degree of orange peel except for one with an expensive custom paint job. The reality is that some orange peel is normal.
That said, in all these threads there have certainly been very real examples of cars that are below average, and some that needed to be corrected.
My C4 (RubyRed), C5 (TR), C6 (VY) all are about the same as the C7 when I have them lined up in the garage. I have another dozen cars - all with some degree of orange peel except for one with an expensive custom paint job. The reality is that some orange peel is normal.
That said, in all these threads there have certainly been very real examples of cars that are below average, and some that needed to be corrected.
#28
Drifting
I have a 2010 HHR CGM that has OP and also a 2014 Sierra that has OP. Both a slight bit more than my 2014 CGM coupe. Also have a 2012 CTS coupe in a similar shade of grey as my HHR and 2014 coupe that I would say is flawless.
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#30
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I have been reading these orange peel threads for the last year and a half, so decided to do some comparison. My brother in law and I looked at our cars very carefully then went to the International Auto Show here in Phoenix - all makes and models, all clean and polished and under the same bright lights. We found all cars have orange peel! MB, BMW, Lexus, etc. were all about the same as the C7. The only car make that stood out as better was the new Bentleys. I came away feeling that my C7 (AW) was on par with other premium cars, although many cars and trucks were comparable.
My C4 (RubyRed), C5 (TR), C6 (VY) all are about the same as the C7 when I have them lined up in the garage. I have another dozen cars - all with some degree of orange peel except for one with an expensive custom paint job. The reality is that some orange peel is normal.
That said, in all these threads there have certainly been very real examples of cars that are below average, and some that needed to be corrected.
My C4 (RubyRed), C5 (TR), C6 (VY) all are about the same as the C7 when I have them lined up in the garage. I have another dozen cars - all with some degree of orange peel except for one with an expensive custom paint job. The reality is that some orange peel is normal.
That said, in all these threads there have certainly been very real examples of cars that are below average, and some that needed to be corrected.
#31
My black 2015 C7 is atrocious and I too wonder what they look for and reject as each car on the assembly line goes under the fluorescent lights
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#33
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The worst colors for orange peel tend to be the solid colors. Every black and torch red I have seen has it really bad. I have seen a few silvers and while it is still there to some degree it is not as noticeable. GM really needs to get their head around this problem because I have seen less expensive cars that they sell that have flawless finishes. There is something going on at the factory that needs to be addressed.
#34
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But what I don't understand is what is different in the process for the C7 that was absent with the C6?????? The paint on my CRM '08 was flawless and I won several show trophies (being a Callaway didn't hurt) but remain very disappointed in the overall finish quality of my NRB C7. I get the idea GM is not very driven to address this because of the immense popularity (and sales) of the C7...
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I had been reading all the posts about the orange peel before I ordered my 15 coupe. They helped me make my color choice. DSOM with natural orange peel effect. GM didn't even charge me extra for the orange peel.
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Yes, every car made has orange peel, even the million dollar cars.
THATS NOT THE POINT. Go look at 20-30 c7’s, not just your car. The point is the many c7's are WORSE than others, even cheaper chevys made in the us.
THATS NOT THE POINT. Go look at 20-30 c7’s, not just your car. The point is the many c7's are WORSE than others, even cheaper chevys made in the us.
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A bit disconcerting that GM would allow one of its Halo Cars, all made in the same plant, to exhibit some of the worst orange peel of any of its makes. I wonder if the Plant Manager is aware of how his customers feel about their cars? Would this be an appropriate topic for the April Bash? Who is in charge of QC at the plant?
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A bit disconcerting that GM would allow one of its Halo Cars, all made in the same plant, to exhibit some of the worst orange peel of any of its makes. I wonder if the Plant Manager is aware of how his customers feel about their cars? Would this be an appropriate topic for the April Bash? Who is in charge of QC at the plant?
well, apparently the talks there were not enuf, here we are a year later with the plant still putting out a good paint job, and then next car has lousy paint.
jag even made special trip to the execs to talk about it....notice the date of this post:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-petition.html
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I was at a local dealer killing time looking at the 2 C7s in stock. The black one had orange peel so bad that even I, who normally can handle orange peel, was appalled. The shark grey one had orange peel but it appeared much less obvious.
I have a crystal red C7 on order and am getting a little nervous about orange peel after seeing the black car. Does orange peel appear more obvious on certain colors and less on others? My real question is how obvious is orange peel on crystal red??? Does this color show orange peel more easily than say shark grey or another color?
I have a crystal red C7 on order and am getting a little nervous about orange peel after seeing the black car. Does orange peel appear more obvious on certain colors and less on others? My real question is how obvious is orange peel on crystal red??? Does this color show orange peel more easily than say shark grey or another color?