Originally Posted by Hameister

I always get a kick outta you Grand Sport haters.

They always say the same thing, GS owners paid loads of extra money for a car that was just a few inches wider, with wider tires, and was heavier, and slower.
The only thing you left out was the "phony scoops", myth.

Would you like to know the facts?

The Grand Sport had...

Specific manual transmission with different gear ratios
Larger/stiffer anti-sway bars
Stiffer springs
Revised shocks
Larger Z06 rear spoiler
Transmission cooler
Functional front and rear brake ducts for added brake system cooling
Unique light weight forged aluminum 18-inch front and 19-inch rear wheels (painted finish standard and chromed finish optional)
Z06 brakes, including cross-drilled 355 mm (14.0 in) front rotors and 340 mm (13 in) rear rotors
Specific rear axle ratio on automatic transmission equipped models
Wider front and rear fenders with integrated Grand Sport badges
Wider 275/35ZR18 tires in the front
Wider 325/30ZR19 tires in the rear
6-piston front calipers and 4-piston rear calipers
Dry-sump oil system (In Coupes equipped with manual transmissions)
Hand-built LS3 6.2L V8 (Coupes equipped with manual transmissions only)
Manual models also include launch control.
Extra cost for all of this? Average was about $4,600!

Other than all this, you're absolutely correct, just wider heavier, and slower.

Originally Posted by Hameister

I always get a kick outta you Grand Sport haters.

They always say the same thing, GS owners paid loads of extra money for a car that was just a few inches wider, with wider tires, and was heavier, and slower.
The only thing you left out was the "phony scoops", myth.

Would you like to know the facts?

Extra cost for all of this? Average was about $4,600!

Other than all this, you're absolutely correct, just wider heavier, and slower.

Originally Posted by RJRSW

I'm not a GS hater and have been driving vettes since I was 17 and now am currently on my 25th vette from all of the first 6 generations.

Higher numbers for weight and drag coefficient are not better and the cost to add Z51 in 2009 was $1,695. they eliminated the Z51 option in 2010 and replaced it with the GS option with many of the same features as were included with the Z51 for an additional cost of $5,840 over the base 2010 coupe to get the GS. That is an additional $4,145 over the cost of the 2009 Z51 option for very few additions to what the Z51 included. Again as I stated before it was a very smart move on GM's part to increase profit on what was a very popular Z51 option already. By eliminating the Z51 option they forced the buyer to pay nearly 3 1/2 times as much to get something very similar.

2012 Coupe v Grand Sport (Higher numbers for weight, power to weight ratio and drag coefficient are not better):

Coupe

CURB WEIGHT

3,225 lbs.


POWER-TO-WEIGHT

7.5:1 (curb weight/hp)


WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION

51/49 DRAG COEFFICIENT 0.286



GS Coupe:

CURB WEIGHT

3,330 lbs.


POWER-TO-WEIGHT

7.7:1 (curb weight/hp)


WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION

51/49 DRAG COEFFICIENT 0.34

Originally Posted by Hameister

I stand corrected. You're not a GS hater, you're a GS hater in denial.
You just don't get it.
People who purchased the GS, didn't give a chit about drag coefficients, or the extra 100 lbs., or a variance of a fraction of a second in straight line acceleration time.

The car was so popular because of it's looks, it's styling, far superior braking, hand build engine, as well as the many other items I listed for you in my prior post.
They received all that for a reasonable price of an extra few thousand dollars.
But, you ignore all of that.
Guys with your mindset do nothing but talk about aerodynamics, and drag coefficients, weight to power ratio, and tire wear, yada, yada, yada, when those of us who purchased the Grand Sport couldn't care less.
But I'm certain I'm wasting my breath. Have a nice day...

Originally Posted by ratman6161

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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...quivalent.html

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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...and-sport.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rt-coming.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-horizon.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...randsport.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rt-or-z06.html

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Originally Posted by Hameister

I stand corrected. You're not a GS hater, you're a GS hater in denial.
You just don't get it.
People who purchased the GS, didn't give a chit about drag coefficients, or the extra 100 lbs., or a variance of a fraction of a second in straight line acceleration time.

The car was so popular because of it's looks, it's styling, far superior braking, hand build engine, as well as the many other items I listed for you in my prior post.
They received all that for a reasonable price of an extra few thousand dollars.
But, you ignore all of that.
Guys with your mindset do nothing but talk about aerodynamics, and drag coefficients, weight to power ratio, and tire wear, yada, yada, yada, when those of us who purchased the Grand Sport couldn't care less.
But I'm certain I'm wasting my breath. Have a nice day...

Originally Posted by bluman

As a former GS owner I'd love to see one but I just don't see the logic to build it, the wide body Z06 now comes with Auto transmission and removable roof, all things that were missing in the C6 Z06, if built that would cut into the Z06 sales !

Originally Posted by SSWEET

While I own one.....let's be realistic...the Grand Sport was introduced to spur C6 sales during the final years of the C6 run, as it was during the final run of the C4. GM has a track record of marketing "special edition" cars to boost sales as it did with the "Commerative Edition" C5 and Collectors Edition C5. Would not be surprised to see it (GS) happen again toward the end of the C7 run too.

Originally Posted by bluman

As a former GS owner I'd love to see one but I just don't see the logic to build it, the wide body Z06 now comes with Auto transmission and removable roof, all things that were missing in the C6 Z06, if built that would cut into the Z06 sales !

Originally Posted by Steve_R