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Old 12-26-2015, 10:28 PM
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It looks like there is a 2016 2LT non-Z51 in my near future. I will change my own oil and filter. The local Chevy mechanics have rarely seen the underside of a Corvette.

The 2016 manual shows fore and aft jack points at the center of the vehicle but I've seen on this forum posts discouraging this. I have a floor jack and four jack stands and plan to jack it up on the aforementioned jack points if possible to change oil and filter. Where do I locate the jack stands? Given the curved tops of the jack stands obviously met for axles in conventional vehicles, I can't see how they would work at the side jack points with jack pucks given the relative shapes of the jack puck and jack stand contact.

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Old 12-26-2015, 10:32 PM
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Its an oil change, and its free from chevy for the first few. Just get it at the dealership... Any mechanic can do an oil change even if they havent seen the corvette before...

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Old 12-26-2015, 10:37 PM
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Its an oil change, and its free from chevy for the first few. Just get it at the dealership... Any mechanic can do an oil change even if they havent seen the corvette before...
That's what I thought about a car I had previously serviced there. Believe me...
I understand about the free oil changes but I would still rather do it myself and will have to do it myself eventually anyhow.
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I just ordered a 2016 ZO6, after reading some of the problems with damage to the car and the wrong amount of oil I will do my own.
I will be more carefull with working on my Corvette then any dealership oil change employee. Read this thread granted it probably won't happen but for what I'm going to pay for this car I can give up the free oil changes.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ler-today.html
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Originally Posted by gve
I just ordered a 2016 ZO6, after reading some of the problems with damage to the car and the wrong amount of oil I will do my own.
I will be more carefull with working on my Corvette then any dealership oil change employee. Read this thread granted it probably won't happen but for what I'm going to pay for this car I can give up the free oil changes.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ler-today.html
I agree with you but what about the warranty? I thought that the stamps were required as a proof maintenance was done in case of powertrain issue claim...
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I agree with you but what about the warranty? I thought that the stamps were required as a proof maintenance was done in case of powertrain issue claim...
They cannot force you to have your car serviced by them.
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I would just use the jack points in the manual and buy some jack stands that fit with the pucks.
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I'll be getting a Quick Lift to eliminate the need for jack stands. I'm actually getting it more for my 32 but it will be useful taking the wheels off the Corvette and to get under for cleaning.
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Originally Posted by Highplains
It looks like there is a 2016 2LT non-Z51 in my near future. I will change my own oil and filter. The local Chevy mechanics have rarely seen the underside of a Corvette.

The 2016 manual shows fore and aft jack points at the center of the vehicle but I've seen on this forum posts discouraging this. I have a floor jack and four jack stands and plan to jack it up on the aforementioned jack points if possible to change oil and filter. Where do I locate the jack stands? Given the curved tops of the jack stands obviously met for axles in conventional vehicles, I can't see how they would work at the side jack points with jack pucks given the relative shapes of the jack puck and jack stand contact.

Any advice appreciated.
The figure in the 2016 manual is the same as the 2014/2015. One pic has an arrow that is incorrect or more accurately not showing specifically where to lift. There is only one cross brace on the front cradle that can be used to jack in the center, the rear most. The rear cradle should only be lifted at the outer edges as GM recommends. The C7 unlike prior Vettes uses hollow aluminum castings and it's a risk lifting at other that were GM says. I made a PDF of what I do to get my car up on all 4's and I don't use 4 jack stands. You'll see the warning label on one of my pairs of stands says jut that. Especially risky IMO if your getting underneath to remove a drain plug and oil filter.
http://netwelding.com/Jacking_A_C7.pdf
Below is one of the many pics in the PDF:



GM recommenced jacking points from 2014 Service Manual, which I colored for clarity

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[QUOTE=JerryU;1591198489]The figure in the 2016 manual is the same as the 2014/2015. One pic has an arrow that is incorrect or more accurately not showing specifically where to lift. There is only one cross brace on the front cradle that can be used to jack in the center, the rear most. The rear cradle should only be lifted at the outer edges as GM recommends. The C7 unlike prior Vettes uses hollow aluminum castings and it's a risk lifting at other that were GM says. I made a PDF of what I do to get my car up on all 4's and I don't use 4 jack stands. You'll see the warning label on one of my pairs of stands says jut that. Especially risky IMO if your getting underneath to remove a drain plug and oil filter.

Thank you very much. Great information here.
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I use Race Ramps to service my C7. Work perfectly. I already had the RR-56 ramps when I bought the car. Added the extenders to reduce the angle of attack from 10.8 to 6.6 degrees.


http://www.raceramps.com/56-inch-car-service-ramps.aspx
http://www.raceramps.com/xtenders-for-56inch-race-ramps.aspx

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1) Order a set of jacking pucks for the C7 from Southern Car Parts a CF vendor and sponsor for $42.99. Install the jacking pucks as they are made to remain on the car.

Whether you use them to change oil or not, they are a mechanics accessory that every C7 owner should have. They install in less than 5 minutes and are placed in the BLUE area as shown above in Jerry U's diagram. You can use 2 slide under the car hydraulic jacks to lift the C7 from the 2 front jacking points.

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2) Consider buying a set of the Race Ramps in the 67" model. The C7 will roll up on the Race Ramps and elevate the C7 an additional 10 to 11" in height. It will be easy to access the oil filter on a non-Z51 model. The oil filter is clearly visible on the non-Z51 model from just bending down on the drivers side and seeing the filter.

3) For the first few oil changes, let the dealer complete the oil changes that you get for free. The money you save by letting the dealer do the free changes, you can use that cash to pay for the jacking pucks and race ramps.

You can buy the 67" set of Race ramps from various on-line auto parts vendors for $268.00 when they have a 20% off sale which is a regular occurrence. The Race Ramps are very lightweight and structurally very sound. They pull apart for easy storage.
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I purchased these jack stands which work well with jack pucks. I also use race ramps. I don't think it is safe to work under four jack stands.


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Do the ramps give you enough clearance to use a creeper to do a oil change or do you need to slide under with a sheet of cardboard on your back?
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Exactly, just keep a written or electronic log of your services whether DIY or elsewhere. I keep a simple Microsoft Access database that also imports the receipts for oil, filters, work by shops, whatever. A dealer acting in good faith won't challenge that absent overt signs of abuse or neglect.


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Old 12-27-2015, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
1) Order a set of jacking pucks for the C7 from Southern Car Parts a CF vendor and sponsor for $42.99. Install the jacking pucks as they are made to remain on the car.

Whether you use them to change oil or not, they are a mechanics accessory that every C7 owner should have. They install in less than 5 minutes and are placed in the BLUE area as shown above in Jerry U's diagram. You can use 2 slide under the car hydraulic jacks to lift the C7 from the 2 front jacking points.

OR

2) Consider buying a set of the Race Ramps in the 67" model. The C7 will roll up on the Race Ramps and elevate the C7 an additional 10 to 11" in height. It will be easy to access the oil filter on a non-Z51 model. The oil filter is clearly visible on the non-Z51 model from just bending down on the drivers side and seeing the filter.

3) For the first few oil changes, let the dealer complete the oil changes that you get for free. The money you save by letting the dealer do the free changes, you can use that cash to pay for the jacking pucks and race ramps.

You can buy the 67" set of Race ramps from various on-line auto parts vendors for $268.00 when they have a 20% off sale which is a regular occurrence. The Race Ramps are very lightweight and structurally very sound. They pull apart for easy storage.
You guys jack up the rear to level it out when doing the oil ?
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Do the ramps give you enough clearance to use a creeper to do a oil change or do you need to slide under with a sheet of cardboard on your back?
Yes, plenty of clearance with the race ramps. I prefer to apply axle grease on my back and butt and simply slide under the C7 in between the ramps.

A creeper will work. Cardboard is just as good.

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Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
You guys jack up the rear to level it out when doing the oil ?
At the present time I have the local dealer completing my 4 free changes.

After that, the race ramps will work fine. The oil will drain well with the front elevated.

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Thanks !!

BTW, and I'm not complaining at all but you change Avatars more than I change my socks. LOL

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Another vote for race ramps...


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