Warble sound occasionally
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Agreed........ Hadn't thought of a harmonic resonance... Any coincidence on when our cars were built? I'm grasping for any ideas at this point. Ours was built Jan 26th 2016.... Ours has done this since mile 0040. We now have about 1850 miles on it. It has gotten no worse, or no better.
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My car was built almost exactly the same time. It has made the noise since the day we picked it up and, like yours, has gotten no worse, no better. You can best hear it with light acceleration and as it passes through the 1500 RPM range, rattles or warbles or whatever. It comes and goes. No other effect. No felt vibration or interruption in performance. The dealer's demonstrator did the same thing. Have close to 3000 miles on it at this point. Dealer turned off all the exhaust valves with a computer and it still did it. They checked underneath and could find nothing loose. I've run it in every mode with and without a Range device that turns off the ability to switch to 4 cylinders. Its an annoyance that I want fixed but I'm not worried about.
If you have contact with GM Techs, please pass along that it's not just your car, several others are known to exhibit this too.
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bjones7131 (05-18-2016)
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Just picked up a 2016 A8 NPP about 2 weeks ago and less than 120 miles so far and I can hear this slight I guess "warble" sound from the rear. Started hearing this after 50 miles on the car and exist on all modes. It typically happens when coasting between 30 - 40 mph and adding light gas, but goes away when easing off the accelerator, it's not loud but can pick up this distinctive noise in cabin.
Doesn't seem to be bearing as the sound goes away, haven't really notice if its getting worse or not but wanted to post to capture any update from this thread. Had a friend with a 2016 A8 non-NPP ride and mentioned it seem to be the AFM or NPP valve when going from V8 to V4.
Doesn't seem to be bearing as the sound goes away, haven't really notice if its getting worse or not but wanted to post to capture any update from this thread. Had a friend with a 2016 A8 non-NPP ride and mentioned it seem to be the AFM or NPP valve when going from V8 to V4.
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Just picked up a 2016 A8 NPP about 2 weeks ago and less than 120 miles so far and I can hear this slight I guess "warble" sound from the rear. Started hearing this after 50 miles on the car and exist on all modes. It typically happens when coasting between 30 - 40 mph and adding light gas, but goes away when easing off the accelerator, it's not loud but can pick up this distinctive noise in cabin.
Doesn't seem to be bearing as the sound goes away, haven't really notice if its getting worse or not but wanted to post to capture any update from this thread. Had a friend with a 2016 A8 non-NPP ride and mentioned it seem to be the AFM or NPP valve when going from V8 to V4.
Doesn't seem to be bearing as the sound goes away, haven't really notice if its getting worse or not but wanted to post to capture any update from this thread. Had a friend with a 2016 A8 non-NPP ride and mentioned it seem to be the AFM or NPP valve when going from V8 to V4.
The perfect storm is a slight incline, very light throttle, 1500 rpm 8th gear and BINGO there it is. Then do the same in 7th at 1500 and you can get it again. On flat roads, it goes through it kind of quick, but it's falling dead square at the range I cruise at. Coming home from visiting family this weekend, I was sitting right at that range going crazy trying to determine what it was.
Pulling the NPP fuse did not change anything. Because it is rpm and not speed related, I do not believe it is differential fluid. When a diff bearing makes noise, it may whine/growl at a certain speed range or get louder with speed, but because it is RPM related and happens in several gears, that should take the tires, drive shafts to wheels and diff out of the mix. Anything on the output side of the transmission is turning at different speeds in every gear at 1500 rpm while the noise appears in multiple gears at the same rpm.
I can get onboard with a resonance as the cause but am unwilling to accept that a 70K car should have a resonance at a speed that many people drive at that can overcome the radio.
People have had transmissions and differentials replaced and the noise stays. I can't believe GM isn't aware, and I can't believe these premier car owners have to resort to searching forums. COME ON GM help us out here.
I am going to get this documented, and I believe that more and more people will begin to complain until GM must release a fix.
I was really hoping for exhaust valve opening because that fix is as easy as GM changing the timing of the event in a flash update.
I am convinced it's in the exhaust. Dealer unsure. I work with guys from NASCAR and other engine techs and they all swear its exhaust resonation. I can hear it over the radio. The more I search the more threads on different forums with the same complaints show up. Here is a link to the thread in stingray forums.
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ut-please.html
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bjones7131 (05-18-2016)
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I contacted the Customer Service guys on this forum and they took my car info and will contact my dealer for an added layer of support. The more I drive my car I think it is a bad rear end or wheele bearing. If I listen closely I can hear it easing out of my driveway at very low speed and it seems to be getting worse. It sounds like a bad bearing or something in the drive train when it is loaded (accelerate). I also contacted a bigger corvette dealership near me and they want me to bring it in to take a listen so if my orig. dealer doesn't pan out I will go this route. I hope U guys with similar issue are getting resolution. Post up your experience so we can keep this post updated and maybe some of us can find the problem and others can follow up with their dealership for a fix.
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My car was built almost exactly the same time. It has made the noise since the day we picked it up and, like yours, has gotten no worse, no better. You can best hear it with light acceleration and as it passes through the 1500 RPM range, rattles or warbles or whatever. It comes and goes. No other effect. No felt vibration or interruption in performance. The dealer's demonstrator did the same thing. Have close to 3000 miles on it at this point. Dealer turned off all the exhaust valves with a computer and it still did it. They checked underneath and could find nothing loose. I've run it in every mode with and without a Range device that turns off the ability to switch to 4 cylinders. Its an annoyance that I want fixed but I'm not worried about.
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What you're describing is exactly what we're experiencing too. I've tried monitoring it in V4 or V8 and it makes no difference. I have spent some time underneath ours when jacked up in the garage and can't find any obvious things that might have been rubbing, etc. Only does it with a light load, gentle acceleration, steady foot ON the gas pedal. Remove my foot and coast, and it goes away. Like you, I've tried every combination of exhaust setting, mode setting, etc and it doesn't matter, still does it. I am certain, it sounds like I only hear it from my left ear and that it's coming from behind me, not the engine bay.
If you have contact with GM Techs, please pass along that it's not just your car, several others are known to exhibit this too.
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I don't buy that because I have tried all the stuff to make sure the valves are open and still get the noise. Generate a customer service ticket to get it on record and they will contact your dealer to help with a resolution. I am sure not everyones NPP sounds like this or are we just unlucky.
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As I stated previously, my dealer had the tech turn off the valves by means of a laptop and it still did made the noise.
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OK, I just posted a note to the Chevy Customer Service on the "Tracking" thread asking that they get this to their Tech Group for assistance.
I hope everyone else will join in too.....
I hope everyone else will join in too.....
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Strake:
Just posted a note there as well. Hopefully others will follow.
Just posted a note there as well. Hopefully others will follow.
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Good deal, i just got a call from my dealer to bring my car in to see if they can figure out my problem and got a PM from customer support indicating the had contacted my dealer. My reply to them was please get gm eng. involved so they can find the problem and eng. A fix. The problem is not my dealer they will fix the problem if they know what to fix. Thanks for raising the issue to cust. Support.
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Good deal, i just got a call from my dealer to bring my car in to see if they can figure out my problem and got a PM from customer support indicating the had contacted my dealer. My reply to them was please get gm eng. involved so they can find the problem and eng. A fix. The problem is not my dealer they will fix the problem if they know what to fix. Thanks for raising the issue to cust. Support.
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Good deal, i just got a call from my dealer to bring my car in to see if they can figure out my problem and got a PM from customer support indicating the had contacted my dealer. My reply to them was please get gm eng. involved so they can find the problem and eng. A fix. The problem is not my dealer they will fix the problem if they know what to fix. Thanks for raising the issue to cust. Support.
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My car has a noise similar to the one mentioned in this thread, but a little different. I'd describe it as a gear whine type sound, a moan or a noise somehow related to rotation. However, it could be a resonance of some sort, I suppose. It certainly seems rpm related. At times, I can also feel a slight vibration throughout the car, mostly in the shifter/center console area.
The noise can happen anywhere in the 1200-2500 rpm range under light-medium throttle (most commonly at 1500-1800 rpm, though). It makes the noise while accelerating or decelerating. Clutch in or out makes no difference. It goes away with added throttle/rpm. It will also make the noise if I rev the engine in neutral.
Can any of you hear this noise at a stop while revving the engine in neutral to the target rpm range?
The noise can happen anywhere in the 1200-2500 rpm range under light-medium throttle (most commonly at 1500-1800 rpm, though). It makes the noise while accelerating or decelerating. Clutch in or out makes no difference. It goes away with added throttle/rpm. It will also make the noise if I rev the engine in neutral.
Can any of you hear this noise at a stop while revving the engine in neutral to the target rpm range?
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no weird noise while stopped and revving engine. Also, NO vibration and really tight on the rpm range.... Very close to 1500. If you are experiencing the same issue, you are the first with the M7 trans that I've seen. I believe everyone else has the A8 who has experienced this. I've never had the noise while decelerating, braking or coasting....... just light, steady acceleration.
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My car has a noise similar to the one mentioned in this thread, but a little different. I'd describe it as a gear whine type sound, a moan or a noise somehow related to rotation. However, it could be a resonance of some sort, I suppose. It certainly seems rpm related. At times, I can also feel a slight vibration throughout the car, mostly in the shifter/center console area.
The noise can happen anywhere in the 1200-2500 rpm range under light-medium throttle (most commonly at 1500-1800 rpm, though). It makes the noise while accelerating or decelerating. Clutch in or out makes no difference. It goes away with added throttle/rpm. It will also make the noise if I rev the engine in neutral.
Can any of you hear this noise at a stop while revving the engine in neutral to the target rpm range?
The noise can happen anywhere in the 1200-2500 rpm range under light-medium throttle (most commonly at 1500-1800 rpm, though). It makes the noise while accelerating or decelerating. Clutch in or out makes no difference. It goes away with added throttle/rpm. It will also make the noise if I rev the engine in neutral.
Can any of you hear this noise at a stop while revving the engine in neutral to the target rpm range?
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Strake (05-18-2016)
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Thanks for the quick reply, fellas. Strange thing is, the noise goes away almost completely after driving the car for a little while. It's crazy. The dealer couldn't pinpoint the source or find anything obviously wrong and claimed that a new Stingray they had in stock made a similar noise. No way this is a normal noise. My car didn't do it for the first 2K miles or so of use.