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I am not interested in changing my trans oil cooling system.
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I would definitely want the upgraded trans oil cooling system even if I have to pay for it.
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I would definitely want the upgraded trans oil cooling system if I didn't have to pay for it.
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A8 Owners - Transmission Oil Cooling System Upgrade Poll

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Old 05-04-2016, 01:12 AM
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Default A8 Owners - Transmission Oil Cooling System Upgrade Poll

GM is currently working on several performance accessory kits, one of which would provide an option for a A8 transmission oil cooling system upgrade.

The following would be required in order to install the new system:

- Removal of the rear bumper cover
- Removal of the left rear fender
- New cooling lines passed through the aperture panel (rocker panel)
- Installation of a different transmission cooler in the rear
- Removal of the front bumper cover
- Removal of the front fender

Because every part fits precisely in its specific location, there is no shortcut for accomplishing the desired result in replacing the transmission oil cooling system.

The installed cost associated for this upgrade would be upwards of $4,000.

GM wants to get an idea of how many would be genuinely interested in this particular upgrade.

Please submit your response to the poll. Results will be provided directly to the Corvette design team.

Feel free to post your comments as well. Thank you for participating in this poll.
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Old 05-04-2016, 01:22 AM
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I selected the "I'd pay for it" option but I'll install it myself. LOL! Aftermarket is the way to go.
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$4000 bux! Not at 4k.....BUT....I would install it my self if the improvement was worth it. I'd pay 600 bux max though.
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There should be an option for wanting the oil cooler at a reasonable price. How in the holy hell can it cost $4000?
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I don't plan to track mine so I am not interested in adding the new tranny oil cooling system.
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Originally Posted by slick316
There should be an option for wanting the oil cooler at a reasonable price. How in the holy hell can it cost $4000?
Sounds like it's a fair amount of work and auto mechanic labor isn't cheap. Then again, if its $4K for parts only then I agree with you.
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Sounds like it's a fair amount of work and auto mechanic labor isn't cheap. Then again, if its $4K for parts only then I agree with you.
Depends on what the work actually is, meaning I'd like to see the installation instructions for it. I would also like to know what the costs are just for the parts.

Even then, $4000 is a lot to ask considering the car shouldn't have issues with oil temps on the track from the factory.
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The $4,000 figure is a ballpark figure that includes installation labor. Keep the feedback coming. Thanks!
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No way would I pay $4000 for this. Engineering and proper testing should have been done before the A8 was released. Current owners should not be used as beta testers and then expected to pay 4K to have the tranny run properly.
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I am interested and am willing to pay something. I think GM should do the right thing and price the kit reasonably so the cars perform as they were advertised.
"Most track ready vette yet"
I hope your info is correct that they really are working on a kit. This was supposed to be out in January, then spring now allegedly this summer. Hope something happens.

Thank you for doing this poll and posting the info that you have.

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$4K...no way....not for something that should have been taken care of by GM. I'm sure if it becomes an issue, I can fix it myself for about $400.

Right now after one session in 80 degree weather my engine oil runs hotter than my A8 trans, so this is low on my list right now.
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Originally Posted by RCpilot
No way would I pay $4000 for this. Engineering and proper testing should have been done before the A8 was released. Current owners should not be used as beta testers and then expected to pay 4K to have the tranny run properly.
Right on the Money!
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I saw this being installed on several new ones being built back in March. Thought it was being kept quiet since nothing but aftermarket was being mentioned on here. Did I miss something. GM should step up for those who want the fix!
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Originally Posted by RCpilot
No way would I pay $4000 for this. Engineering and proper testing should have been done before the A8 was released. Current owners should not be used as beta testers and then expected to pay 4K to have the tranny run properly.
Originally Posted by Jim Barker
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I thought that's why you pay the extra money for the Z51 package, GM needs to man up.
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Since I don't track my car I would not be willing to pay for this upgrade but I have noticed increased trans temps even when driving aggressively on the street when using Manual mode. I also experienced some transmission overheating during some "parade" laps at VIR last August. I do think the A8 needs additional cooling and GM should have done a better job in designing this from the getgo.
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FYI, the data that I have received is that adding this and the Z06 grille will allow sufficient cooling for track use up to 100 degrees.
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So Gm found a problem with the tranny cooling system not being up to par for people who use there sports car the way Chevy premotes it to be used.But didn't design it correctly so the trans overheats.

And they want to know how many people will pay them 4K to fix there design shortcoming.

Wow what a great idea.
Hey let me sell you a fridge that doesn't make ice correctly.And then you give me 500 to make it work correctly.Wow What A Deal!!!

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Old 05-04-2016, 11:32 AM
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I voted that I would pay for the cooling upgrade but, likely will not happen since I installed the GMPP Secondary Radiator in the same place where the stock, front-mounted transmission cooler would go. Happy with the results of the added engine cooling.
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I recognize that not all C7 owners are concerned about this issue. But GM should address this, without cost, for at least the Z51 owners who relied upon the advertising and owner's manual concerning their "track ready" vehicle. I have had reps tell me that it was "never intended" to do more than a single lap (!). How they can say this with a straight face after publishing the Z51 Track Preparation Guide is beyond me.

Check out Tadge Juechter's written statement about track use:



Quote:

jvp asked

Have you considered further differentiating the Corvette from the rest of the Chevy brand, by perhaps extending the bumper-to-bumper warranty another year and/or 12,000 miles? Perhaps make it on a par with Cadillac’s warranty?


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Tadge answered

Compared to other high performance cars. the Corvette is already has much lower operating costs, and a very competitive warranty, Our standard warranty includes:•Scheduled maintenance for two years or 24,000 miles
•Bumper to bumper warranty for three years or 36,000 miles
•Powertrain warranty for five years or 100,000 miles
In addition to the organizational impracticality of having a very different Corvette warranty than other Chevy products, it's important to note that there's a lot of fine print associated with auto warranties. Some manufacturers have impressive headlines, but when you read the fine print you see much content is excluded from coverage, or the warranty is void if you use the car on the track. We are especially proud to say when Chevrolet certifies a car for track performance, we stand behind the warranty - even the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty - even for track use.

Also, I can assure you that we do not design any product to just live through the warranty period. We do our best to design vehicles that last as long as practical. We know some Corvettes have been on the road for over 60 years, and we would like the cars we are building today to be driving around in 2075!

Tadge Juechter
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C'mon GM. It's a great car. Please stand behind your product and fix this glitch.
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I would be willing to buy the "kit", even given GM's parts prices. But given that there is so much labor involved, I don't think I could do it myself and I sure am not going to pay the Stealership labor rates to have their design flaw fixed.

I guess GM figures replacing the tranny under the drive train warranty is cheaper than fixing the design flaw. I'll guess GM figures that this design flaw won't kill as many of their customers as others have so why bother paying for a fix this time?!?!?!


After all, let see how many other design flaws on the C7 they might have to cover:
  • Torque Converter
  • Pull Down Latch
  • Catch Can or do you prefer valve carbon

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