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Old 11-08-2016, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
I'd chime in on the fact that you're comparing a company to a model as far as sales go but I see that a couple of other members already brought to light just how dumb of a statement you made is.
I went back and read this and after seeing several folks questioning my logic, I figured I just had to point out the obvious: The point I made was one can sell 40,000 to 50,000 cars annually having only urban/suburban dealerships. Who cares if one is selling sports cars or upmarket SUVs and sedans?

People in more rural areas can pick up the phone or use the internet. Who buys a Corvette at the local dealer any more, anyway? Some do, but many shop the high volume dealers many miles away to get the best deal. This is the future; heck, it is the present.
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Hate to break it to you guys but I attend several car shows each year with Ferraris, Lombo, McClarens, etc... You name it the exotics are all there. But I don't care if they made a Corvette that went 350 mph people with big bucks will NOT buy one. Why? Because it doesn't have the "panache" that the so called "super cars" have. They like the Vettes, but, it's all about status not bragging rights. Example, the Viper. They only sold a couple of thousand of them but no matter, it was still a Dodge and a ZORA would still be a Chevy.
Tell us something we don't already know. But, there will always be a small number of fans that will pay whatever their wallets will allow for their favorite brand, because they are tied to the brand. Just ask the Mustang owner that will buy the highest priced Mustang available, even close to six figures, primarily because they won't be seen in a Corvette Z06, or Viper.
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Originally Posted by BIG Dave
Just ask the Mustang owner that will buy the highest priced Mustang available, even close to six figures, primarily because they won't be seen in a Corvette Z06, or Viper.
Very true.
The Mustang guys are pretty crazy...and I even had one!
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Since we can buy a 2017 911 with Turbo for $100K and a NSX for $150K, this mass produced vehicle should be priced around $90K.
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Originally Posted by 86C4Z51
I'm not big on the mid-engine idea for this car, but I will confess, I'm eager to see what it does. I hope they stay away from the sharp angle/Cadillac styling that has taken over at GM, and make it smooth and beautiful rather than sharp and angry. Nothing against the C7, mind you. But the Caddies that came after the Eldo died don't do a thing for me in the looks department. The XLR was pretty cool looking though.
I agree. I think they have gone a bit overboard with the hard edge styling. There is definitely some middle ground there.

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Old 12-10-2016, 04:22 AM
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GM surely have a more global reach in mind with this project. It is true that the Chevy brand is at last getting some traction globally by being linked only to Corvette and Camaro. It is also true imo that GM is trying to elevate the Cadillac brand away from its current standing. Outside the US, Cadillac is still considered as the benchmark US brand, an element that may prove critical in what GM have in mind.

In the meantime, Bowling Green is being gradually developed on what is clearly a world-class model of operation. I somehow doubt that GM will let that investment and effort stop at the upcoming ZR1 or an updated C8.

Exciting times ahead, proud to see what looks like a no-excuse US effort developing globally.
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2017 is looking to be a great year for awesome cars, Detroit Auto show should have some strong showings for us all. The new ZR1 or whatever it will be called, then later the new mid engine, twin turbo hybrid power halo car. Life is good people!
Old 12-10-2016, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaJack
Since we can buy a 2017 911 with Turbo for $100K and a NSX for $150K, this mass produced vehicle should be priced around $90K.
According to my sources, you cannot get an NSX for anything close to $150K. For the most part they are sold out and dealers and brokers are getting way more than $200K for them. I suspect that will change once the newness wears off but Acura has over priced the NSX in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by witch hunt
that's cool---thanks Jag. Think there might be a few complainers around regarding the $400,000 est price?
At that price I can't even afford to complain!
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Originally Posted by Mythird1
dealers and brokers are getting way more than $200K for them. .
Wow...that's just crazy money for that car.
I would go look at Ferraris or McLarens.

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Originally Posted by Michael A
I agree. I think they (Cadillac) have gone a bit overboard with the hard edge styling. There is definitely some middle ground there.
Michael
I agree. Caddies simply lack style for the last 10 years. The wedge, edge, pseudo stealth look is not going to be attractive in a sports car either.
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Originally Posted by Bunk
Caddies simply lack style for the last 10 years. The wedge, edge, pseudo stealth look is not going to be attractive in a sports car either.




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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Hate to break it to you guys but I attend several car shows each year with Ferraris, Lombo, McClarens, etc... You name it the exotics are all there. But I don't care if they made a Corvette that went 350 mph people with big bucks will NOT buy one. Why? Because it doesn't have the "panache" that the so called "super cars" have. They like the Vettes, but, it's all about status not bragging rights. Example, the Viper. They only sold a couple of thousand of them but no matter, it was still a Dodge and a ZORA would still be a Chevy.
I agree with this only to a certain point. Look at the Ford GT market the last two years. It is skyrocketing. At the end of the day it's just a Ford and it is high demand.

If Chevy does it right it will be sought after.

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Originally Posted by ksmithwick
I agree with this only to a certain point. Look at the Ford GT market the last two years. It is skyrocketing. At the end of the day it's just a Ford and it is high demand.

If Chevy does it right it will be sought after.
Personally, I think chevrolet will have success if they take the same approach as Mercedes Benz with the GT R.

Mass produce at the 911 Turbo S / Mclaren 570S price point with record breaking performance.

The Ford GT carries a different stigma than the corvette because there is no "attainable" version of the GT. There is however a $60k vette.
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Originally Posted by ksmithwick
I agree with this only to a certain point. Look at the Ford GT market the last two years. It is skyrocketing. At the end of the day it's just a Ford and it is high demand.

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The demand for the previous GT will start dropping once the new gen hits the market.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
The demand for the previous GT will start dropping once the new gen hits the market.
Yeah, No!
The "old" GT has extremely strong styling cues to the original GT/GT40. That car has never gotten old and the old new 'copy' won't either. At least not while there us a least one baby boomer left alive.

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that's the Cien, it's about 12 years old.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Very true.
The Mustang guys are pretty crazy...and I even had one!
Damn, I'm in too negative of a mood of late but I gotta say No!

Well, actually yes, but not more so than a probably equal percentage of paranoid, delusional, Corvette fan boys. It is one thing for the owner of a $35,000 car to envy a $65-100,000 car he can't afford (thus attacking it as a mental self defense mechanism) and a totally different thing for the owner of a $65-100,000 car to be beyond paranoid and obsessed with hating/putting down a $35,000 car.

I live in both worlds and usually own both at the same time and thus get a earful from each fan boy group. Geezzz talk about people in serious need of psychological help.
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Originally Posted by Z06LUST
Yeah, No!
The "old" GT has extremely strong styling cues to the original GT/GT40. That car has never gotten old and the old new 'copy' won't either. At least not while there us a least one baby boomer left alive.
The 2004-6 car DOES indeed have "strong styling cues to the original."
However, underneath the skin it is anything but like the old GT40.

Originally Posted by themonk
that's the Cien, it's about 12 years old.
Yup...one of the 1st examples of Cadillac's Art and Science design aesthetic.


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